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Post the video. I can't as you've blanked the details.

bump please?

My apologies, I didn't realise (despite reading the 'READ THIS FIRST' before posting notice) about the video nor about blanking out the vehicle details. Nor am I hugely technically minded but I think I've finally managed to work out how to link the video.


Failing the drive link not working here is the PCN without the relevant details blanked out


I hope this is now all correct & I am really grateful for any advice anyone is able to give.

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Ahhh,I was so close....

Is this better?


There were 2 prior warning signs that were completely missed located on E Heath Road. They appear to me to be quite small and the printed restriction times even smaller still. I don't think you would be able to read the times as you are driving past. One sign located on the left hand side shortly before you turn/veer right into Holford Road (its kinda like the letter Y) and one on the actual junction where it veers off right. The 2'warning' signs are circled in green in this picture with the 3rd green circle on the right indicating the restriction sign (at the time the picture was taken it was covered over)https://ibb.co/ZRjW0M0J

The driver was a PH driver en route to picking up a passenger waiting at an address on Cannon Place. Unknown to them there was a new restriction in place and having researched this new restriction I can see that it would impossible for anyone to actually pick the passenger up from Cannon Place without entering the restriction as the restriction encompasses all the surrounding streets too. Fine, the passenger would have had to have walked to the PH driver who should have waited outside the restricted zone but what if that isn't possible...eg, passenger has mobility issues, health issues, elderly etc. I'm not sure how the sign was missed, the driver would not have deliberately driven into a restricted zone willingly to receive a fine afterwards. The restriction sign is placed on the left hand side of Holford Road where the right hand bend is so perhaps the driver was focused more on oncoming traffic coming around the bend instead. There is no restriction sign situated on the other side of Holford Road which I think would be more in the eye line of the driver - are there not supposed to be 2 signs - one on either side of the road? Watching the video it seems to me that the height of the restriction sign is way higher in comparison to the height of the MPV which in itself is 2 meters high. Should I go back and measure the height of the sign, are there regulations around the correct sizing of these signs?

I ask advice too as to whether the PCN is issued correctly, should it not state the contravention code of 52M on the PCN or is that a minor detail?

Many thanks.

Thanks for clarifying the code.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but all I'm seeking is advice from anyone whether they think there are grounds to contest this PCN based on the information I've shared.

I get that I need to either pay by today or submit representations but I've no advice as to whether I've got grounds to go by to contest it?

What is it I'm doing wrong here...?

Thank you @Incandescent...

Please watch this dash cam footage



I have not had to deal with these types of PCN's before only the parking ones as to the deadline time the PCN did not arrive in the post until a week after the date of the notice. The driver went back to see the situation and to take photos but did not think to measure signs etc. The video above is dash cam footage of the warning signs on approach to the restriction sign which was covered then as when the driver went back it was outside restriction times. At the beginning you see one warning sign on the left then the driver turns/veers right and you see another warning sign but that is situated in an odd location and as you drive up Holford Road it gets obscured by the tree branches.

Anyway, rather than just paying the amount this is what I submitted as my representations.

"I make representations against this PCN on the grounds that the restriction signage did not adequately convey the restriction to motorists.

The “No Motor Vehicles During Restricted Hours” sign is positioned excessively high immediately after a give-way junction and before a right-hand bend. A driver approaching this location must focus on giving way and checking for oncoming traffic around the bend, rather than looking upwards for elevated signage.

I have supplied photographs showing the position of the restriction sign, together with photographs showing one advance warning sign facing away from approaching Holford Road traffic and partially obscured by tree foliage.

The warning signs also display unusually small lettering which is difficult to read safely while approaching the junction of East Heath Road and Holford Road.

Given the road layout and positioning of the signage, I do not believe the restriction was adequately conveyed and I respectfully request that the PCN be cancelled"

So that is my defence which was submitted today and now the pressure is off.

If anyone is able to give me advice how to go forward if/when the rejection letter comes through eg...does the driver need to go back to take measurements then I get get that done in advance.

Thank you all again.