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PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
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Morning. I am not sure, but i saw this yellow restriction / warning board yesterday evening and saw the door numbers and thought it doesn't affect me where I have parked. This morning around 6.30 AM a PCN was issued. And after receiving the PCN, I went around around the warning board and then reading it few times, realised it said "and opposite". Not sure why they would say "opposite" instead of door numbers ?

Can someone tell me If I can challenge this ? Is it ok to even say "and opposite" in the yellow restriction warning boards ? Here are the images, please check and let me know.









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Please supply the Reg Mark and PCN no., and also post a GSV link to the location.
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Please supply the Reg Mark and PCN no., and also post a GSV link to the location.


Please find the attached. Images are now attached to the original post. Kindly let me know if you need more details.
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Please supply the Reg Mark and PCN no., and also post a GSV link to the location.


Please find the attached. Images are now attached to the original post. Kindly let me know if you need more details.

Can only see images of suspension sign; one side of redacted PCN; and close-up of Traffic Order.
The last, incidentally, appears to prohibit access and says nothing op parking restrictions???

So, please post both sides of the unredacted PCN and the GSV link, together with any council photos.

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IMO, It is not a 'suspension' sign in the accepted sense i.e. suspending the use of a parking place in exercise of powers under a Traffic Management Order, it's a 'traffic sign' purportedly giving effect to 'The London Borough of Newham blah blah Temporary Prohibition of Traffic Order 2026.

IMO, contravention did not occur because the use of the parking place was not suspended, all the Order does is 'restrict traffic access along.., it does not suspend statutory parking controls.

'7)An order or notice made or issued under this section [14] may—

(a)suspend any statutory provision to which this subsection applies'

An Act to consolidate the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1967 and certain related enactments, with amendments to give effect to recommendations of the Law Commission and the Scottish Law Commission.
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Thanks everyone for your responses. Apologies for the delayed response.

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Here are the images from the PCN itself. I don't have a backside image of the PCN receipt (as the wife replaced the receipt somewhere).  If you have any questions, please do let me know.








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Re: PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
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What's an "Advanced" Notice? Wouldn't a Basic Notice be easier to understand?
They could post up a basic notice ahead of time as an Advance Notice.

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IMO..

Contravention did not occur.

The PCN was issued because the CEO had been instructed that the display of the yellow board attached to which was a Temporary Traffic Order had the effect of
suspending the prevailing parking controls and substituting statutory different restrictions, in this case no waiting/loading.

However, as can be seen, the TTRO does nothing of the sort. Instead it restricts the access of traffic to specified roads which cannot create the restriction which the council allege was breached.

The PCN must be cancelled.

If the authority does not agree then, in any rejection, they must specify and produce that part of the Order which it alleges was breached. Simply stating 'there was a restriction and it was breached' would not give proper consideration to my detailed representations.

Some thoughts..

IMO, contravention did not occur because the use of the parking place was not suspended, all the Order does is 'restrict traffic access along.., it does not suspend statutory parking controls.

'7)An order or notice made or issued under this section [14] may—

(a)suspend any statutory provision to which this subsection applies'

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IMO..

Contravention did not occur.

The PCN was issued because the CEO had been instructed that the display of the yellow board attached to which was a Temporary Traffic Order had the effect of
suspending the prevailing parking controls and substituting statutory different restrictions, in this case no waiting/loading.

However, as can be seen, the TTRO does nothing of the sort. Instead it restricts the access of traffic to specified roads which cannot create the restriction which the council allege was breached.

The PCN must be cancelled.

If the authority does not agree then, in any rejection, they must specify and produce that part of the Order which it alleges was breached. Simply stating 'there was a restriction and it was breached' would not give proper consideration to my detailed representations.

Some thoughts..

IMO, contravention did not occur because the use of the parking place was not suspended, all the Order does is 'restrict traffic access along.., it does not suspend statutory parking controls.

'7)An order or notice made or issued under this section [14] may—

(a)suspend any statutory provision to which this subsection applies'

Thanks for the details. Can you help me draft an appeal please ?

Re: PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
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They're as above!

Just put in your own words (top and tail with contextual matters) and pl just stick with the substantive issue.

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They're as above!

Just put in your own words (top and tail with contextual matters) and pl just stick with the substantive issue.

Please find my response for informal challenge response. Can you check and let me know if this sounds ok ?


I make these representations on the basis that the alleged contravention did not occur.

The PCN was issued on the assumption that the yellow advance warning board in place—said to give effect to a Temporary Traffic Regulation Order (TTRO)—have had the legal effect of suspending the existing parking controls and imposing alternative restrictions, specifically a prohibition on waiting and loading.

This assumption is incorrect. The TTRO relied upon does not suspend any parking provisions, nor does it create any prohibition on waiting or loading. Its operative effect is limited solely to restricting traffic access to certain roads. A restriction on vehicular access cannot, as a matter of law, impose or substitute parking restrictions. The statutory parking controls governing the location therefore remained fully in force and were not displaced.

For this reason, the alleged contravention could not have occurred and the PCN must be cancelled.

If the authority maintains that the TTRO created a waiting/loading restriction, then in any Notice of Rejection it must identify and provide the specific provision of the TTRO that it alleges was breached. A general statement that “a restriction existed and was breached” would not constitute proper consideration of these representations and would be procedurally improper.

For clarity, section 14(7) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 provides that an order made under that section may suspend statutory provisions. The TTRO in question does not do so. It merely restricts traffic access; it does not suspend, amend, or replace the statutory parking controls applicable to the location.

In the absence of any lawful suspension of the parking place, no contravention occurred.