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See pcn attached. Contravention time 19:40

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Just noticed timestamp says 18:40 but pcn says 19:40
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Do you know what time it actually was?

Assuming the bus lane is till 7pm, might as well appeal on the time basis stated - without drawing their attention to the pictures!
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The enforcement notice says 19:40 and they can't change that.

I think this lane ends at 7pm so the contravention did not occur.

Looks like they've messed up.

What's the story with the PCN - the initial PCN would have been sent to the registered keeper so what happened to that. The enforcement notice is the second stage in London bus lanes.

Contravention: 23 March
EN: 5 May
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@tawnyess I see you have made representations according to the website. What did you say please? Also, please screenshot their website regularly.

If they reject, I am happy to assist.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:03:47 am by Hippocrates »
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Quote from: stamfordman on Yesterday at 09:45:28 am
The enforcement notice says 19:40 and they can't change that.

I think this lane ends at 7pm so the contravention did not occur.

Looks like they've messed up.

What's the story with the PCN - the initial PCN would have been sent to the registered keeper so what happened to that. The enforcement notice is the second stage in London bus lanes.

Contravention: 23 March
EN: 5 May

Didn’t recieve any other notice before this
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Quote from: Hippocrates on Yesterday at 10:01:28 am
@tawnyess I see you have made representations according to the website. What did you say please? Also, please screenshot their website regularly.

If they reject, I am happy to assist.

The PCN alleges that the contravention occurred at 19:40. The bus lane restrictions only operate until 19:00, therefore
no contravention could have occurred at the time stated on the notice.
The authority’s own CCTV evidence instead displays a different time of 18:40, which directly contradicts the particulars
stated on the PCN. The notice therefore contains materially inconsistent information and fails to accurately state the
alleged contravention.
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You only needed this bit. The video is irrelevant.

The PCN alleges that the contravention occurred at 19:40. The bus lane restrictions only operate until 19:00, therefore no contravention could have occurred at the time stated on the notice.

Bus lanes contraventions can have a camera issue. Hippo is onto this but I don't think anything else was needed here.

Is the address correct on the EN as it is a concern the PCN wasn't received.

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Quote from: stamfordman on Yesterday at 02:03:36 pm
You only needed this bit. The video is irrelevant.

The PCN alleges that the contravention occurred at 19:40. The bus lane restrictions only operate until 19:00, therefore no contravention could have occurred at the time stated on the notice.

Bus lanes contraventions can have a camera issue. Hippo is onto this but I don't think anything else was needed here.

Is the address correct on the EN as it is a concern the PCN wasn't received.

Address is correct. To be honest a lot of missing post in my area.
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Well, if this goes to the Tribunal, they will be faced with questions about the camera and they must attend in this law.
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

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There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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