Author Topic: PCN East Lothian: incorrect payment address listed in NSL response to informal appeal  (Read 555 times)

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Hi, I stupidly responded to a PCN issued today before finding this website. However, having gone through the initial ‘informal’ appeal process using the website listed on the PCN, the emailed response from NSL on behalf of East Lothian council has listed the wrong payment details and issuing council. They have named and listed the payment details for Edinburgh City Council which uses a different PO Box and different postcode for postal payments and an incorrect pay-in-person address. A Google search suggests this constitutes procedural impropriety as it contains misleading and inaccurate payment information. I would be very grateful to know if this means East Lothian are unlikely to win if the case goes to tribunal, despite the payment information on the PCN itself being correct? TIA.

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Post all of the PCN and the email.

Thanks for your reply stamfordman. Not technically savvy but have hopefully linked to both.

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Musselbourgh is definitely in East Lothian not part of City of Edinburgh Council, very strange.

Even I can see on the photos that the PCN windscreen affix is same colour and style as City of Edinburgh Council but zooming in which shows East Lothian Council.


We need to see the original PCN (both sides)


Thanks for your reply Daim456. I have hopefully now linked to photo of pcn (was struggling before and laptop broken) and postal envelope which is same as postal address on other side of pcn itself. It is definitely a clerical error by the NSL operative who replied to my informal appeal, I imagine because they represent both councils. What I am wondering is if anyone else knows of a similar case and/or whether it is sufficient grounds to constitute procedural impropriety as Google suggests?

A Google search suggests this constitutes procedural impropriety

IMO, Google is wrong. Procedural impropriety is not statutory grounds under the RTA. But if you were so minded you could include this within the scope of 'penalty exceeded .....circumstances of the case'..which, as you can see, has been stated incorrectly anyway!

But IMO, there's nowhere to go with these points at this stage, you need to wait for the NTO. So, are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details?

Talking of the NTO, IMO let's hope they serve this as soon as practical after the 14-day discount period has elapsed. This is because you are in a very rare situation i.e. your initial reps and their reply occurred so soon after the PCN was served, that the authority MAY NOT serve a NTO as stated, they have to wait until 28 days have elapsed: 20 March plus 14 days is 13 days short of the 28-day period. 
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Thanks Tincombe - yes I am the registered keeper with current DVLA details. I don’t fully understand the significance of when they serve the NTO - are you saying if it’s served before the 28-day period that that may work in my favour?

Their reply..

..we will send a NTO ...when the discount period has expired..

Bring it on!

They may not serve a NTO earlier than 16 Apr. by law. Re-offered discounts be damned.

Your Google photo shareable need to be change to public as it is restricted access, we cannot see the PCN.