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Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to comply with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
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Quote from: cp8759 on February 03, 2025, 06:43:39 pm
@WaltWhite please email me unredacted copies of those and I'll forward them to the LGO.

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Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to comply with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
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The OP said reps were sent, whether they were made is to be determined. We don't know to what email address, how this was obtained, from whom, with what assurances, if any, their form and when.

OP, pl let's try and establish these details pl.

Or is this is now off thread? 
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Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to comply with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
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Quote from: H C Andersen on February 03, 2025, 07:26:16 pm
The OP said reps were sent, whether they were made is to be determined. We don't know to what email address, how this was obtained, from whom, with what assurances, if any, their form and when.

OP, pl let's try and establish these details pl.

Or is this is now off thread?

From page 3 of this thread....
Given the email address by someone else in this thread
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Sent: 17 December 2024 23:06
To: Parking and Traffic Enforcement <parkingandtrafficenforcement@redbridge.gov.uk>; Parking and Traffic Enforcement <highways.parkingappeals@redbridge.gov.uk>; Parking and Traffic Enforcement <highways.parkingmanagement@redbridge.gov.uk>
Subject: Representations AF3....... (tried to submit this via website on 15th Dec)


Dear Sir Madam,

I am writing to formally challenge the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) number AF...... issued to myself for allegedly failing to comply with traffic restrictions on Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1. I believe that this charge has been unfairly issued and wish to present my case for your consideration.

Firstly the sign indicating the restriction against traffic is not of the 'hinged' type that should be only visible during School Term Time. This type of sign has not received authorisation as suitable signage to traffic outside of the School zone, from the Department of Transport, rending the PCN here null and void.

Secondly when attempting to make an online representation against this PCN, the website fetters discretion with regards to the grounds allowed. The LB Redbridge website indicates which grounds will not be considered here, and a public body should not adopt such a rigid policy that prevents it from exercising discretion in individual cases. I attach screenshots from the LB Redbridge website.

Finally the online representation page fetters to only one ground only for representation. Again this is unfair and does not allow for proper consideration of the possible grounds for a PCN to be contested. I also attach screenshots from the LB Redbridge website.

I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.

Kind regards,

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Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to comply with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
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There are two requirements for making representations: they must be made within 28 days of the date of service, and they must be made in the form and manner specified on the PCN. A representation made on 17 December 2024 is prima-facie out of time, and I'm not aware of the Redbridge PCN allowing representations to be made by email, so that would seem to defeat both points.

A complaint is progressing with the Local Government Ombudsman, the only other avenue would be a judicial review.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to comply with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
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Update: https://www.lgo.org.uk/decisions/transport-and-highways/parking-and-other-penalties/24-018-072

The Council has failed to provide a clear date for representations to be received. The information provided on the notice is open to ambiguity and has caused Mr Y confusion which has led to him being unable to provide representations in time.

This obviously doesn't bind adjudicators, but it can be persuasive to show that Redbridge's notices are ambiguous.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2026, 10:44:53 pm by cp8759 »
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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