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LBWF-code 52M
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Wife received this today dated 5/8/24 and the alleged contravention occurred 23/6/24.

Code 52M
Is there any technicality that can be used here.

I can't attach the pcn as the uploader is full.
PCN FR6285491A
VRN YG71VPE

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Hashim
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Re: LBWF-code 52M
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Read this about posting the PCN:
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

Assuming you're not the little boy on the bike a technicality would seem to be the only way out. Why drive through this?

« Last Edit: August 07, 2024, 03:17:44 pm by stamfordman »
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Is you car leased, because there is a 28 day limit on issuing a PCN from date of alleged contravention ?
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Yes the car is leased.

So what does this mean?

Thanks

Hashim
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Quote from: Hashim on August 07, 2024, 04:50:06 pm
Yes the car is leased.

So what does this mean?

These PCNs must be served on the registered keeper in 28 days but usually the RK is the lease company so more time often passes in the process to tell the council who the lessee is so they can reissue it to you. Your lease agreement should tell you how the company deals with PCNs and you may be charged an admin fee. 

If you post the PCN we can check for faults.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2024, 10:19:23 pm by stamfordman »
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This is the link to the PCN.

https://imgur.com/a/kDUOTma

I informed the leasing company not to pay any PCN's and to forward them to me. The PCN was addressed to me and to my address.
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Hashim
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OK, so it looks as if the process worked, and the first PCN was cancelled when the leasing company submitted reps. The council then have 28 days to serve another one to the person named by the leasing company. So the PCN would seem to be in-time, although you could ask the lease company when they were told their PCN was cancelled.
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I'll get in touch with the leasing company as to when they informed them of my details.

So how do I make the representation?

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Hashim
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although you could ask the lease company when they were told their PCN was cancelled. - Incandescent

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I'll get in touch with the leasing company as to when they informed them of my details. - Hashim

You need to ask the leasing company if and when the Council confirmed in writing the cancellation of the first PCN (the one issued to the company).

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1. We  need to see the hire agreement to check for issues.

2. The right hand sign is missing a plate.

3. This council's Notice of Rejections are currently defective so it is worth a punt.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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"You need to ask the leasing company if and when the Council confirmed in writing the cancellation of the first PCN (the one issued to the company)"

The company received the PCN on the 3/7/24 and they made a representation on the 10/7/24 and they did not receive any further correspondence. This was done via email.

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We need all the documents.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Quote from: Hashim on August 09, 2024, 12:29:31 pm
"You need to ask the leasing company if and when the Council confirmed in writing the cancellation of the first PCN (the one issued to the company)"

The company received the PCN on the 3/7/24 and they made a representation on the 10/7/24 and they did not receive any further correspondence. This was done via email.

It sounds as if the Council failed to cancel the PCN in their name, which means that there are two PCNs in existence for the same alleged offence. Others will confirm.

The PCN you posted is addressed to you at your address?
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Quote from: Hippocrates on August 09, 2024, 12:57:02 pm
We need all the documents.

Yes The PCN that was posted was addressed to me.
I have asked the hire company to send me the original PCN that was addressed to them.

How do i attach the contract as the uploader is full and Imgur does not allow PDF's.



Thanks

Hashim
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Hi

I've managed to get the original PCN that was posted to the lease company.

https://imgur.com/a/rDGi8Nl


Thanks

Hashim
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