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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2023, 09:50:21 pm »
looks like they have rejected my reps - amount going to increase to 195 as per their website on 28 Nov- I haven't received anything so far though - presume will get something in the post next week

shouldn't they say the amount will increase to 130? rather than 195? given I only did informal reps within 14 days and next step will be a NTO - not sure why amount will increase to 195 on 28 November

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2023, 11:09:00 am »
documents are needed not screen shots and dates be precise so we can help you

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2023, 11:27:05 am »
documents are needed not screen shots and dates be precise so we can help you

Thank you, will definitely post as soon as I have any document. Nothing received yet - they posted on 10 November as per the website screenshot so assume I will get it mid next week

Nothing in spam/inbox so looks like they have sent by snail mail rather than email

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2023, 11:36:07 am »
If you can get, the PCN log off their website, because that should show you when/if a Notice to Owner has been sent out. Matters don't progress to a Charge Certificate unless they have produced and sent out the NtO. HOwever, so many councils are totally incompetent and stupid, I suppose it is possible they missed this stage out.  I think there was one London council that had a contractor print and mail-out their postal documents and failed to do so. Date of NtO must be the date sent out by mail and first class too.

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2023, 11:46:38 am »
It definitely is not at NTO stage and its an error on their website.

Date of contravention/PCN: 26 October 2023
Informal reps: 2 November 2023
Date of rejection notice: 10 November 2023 (not received yet)

Council website says charge is currently 65 so looks like they reissued the discount for another 14 days from date of service but then says the charge will go up to 195 by 28 November 2023

When in fact on 28 November 2023 or 14 days from rejection notice, they will be able to issue a Notice to Owner for the first time which should just be for 130 and probably will offer discount again
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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2023, 01:25:30 pm »
It definitely is not at NTO stage and its an error on their website.

Date of contravention/PCN: 26 October 2023
Informal reps: 2 November 2023
Date of rejection notice: 10 November 2023 (not received yet)

Council website says charge is currently 65 so looks like they reissued the discount for another 14 days from date of service but then says the charge will go up to 190 by 26 November 2023

When in fact on 26 November 2023 or 14 days from rejection notice, they will be able to issue a Notice to Owner for the first time which should just be for 130 and probably will offer discount again

I keep asking for precision so we can know what is what it will not go up to 190 will it it says 195

This is an error they must first serve the NTO and it will then be 130 they cannot do this before the 22nd nov

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2023, 01:31:52 pm »
indeed apologies, 195 is indeed what it says on the council's website (re amount goin up to 195 on Tue, 28 November)

Hopefully this adds one further point for the formal reps/Tribunal stage

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2023, 02:01:49 pm »
It could well do but let's see the NTO first,

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2023, 11:31:13 am »
okay so received the attached letter in response to the informal reps - extremely strangely they are saying that I attached a receipt for 25 October which is clearly wrong as both the paybyphone receipt and the customer support team screenshot mention 26 October.

even more bizarre they can't find any record of payment from me for 26 October -- crazy



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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2023, 01:22:03 pm »
Things just getting better all the time. start to collate all your evidence into one folder so it's handy to get to when it comes time to appeal

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2023, 05:22:12 pm »
yes will do and i guess wait for NTO now which will go to lease company first and then they will transfer to me so at least a month to go

Plz do let me know the other point you had mentioned earlier to bring out later but you had not specified what it was in one of your earlier posts

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2023, 08:15:44 pm »
Give the lease company the heads up tell them not to pay but to make representations using the not owner ground naming you. Do they have correct details for you?

If they mess up or the council accept an invalid document from them more power to your elbow

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2023, 08:25:36 pm »
yes all correct details with them - will let them know

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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2023, 12:29:20 am »
If the amount goes up to 195 prematurely, take another screenshot but with another window open showing https://time.is/

The reason being that the council could try arguing you fiddled with the time and date on your own computer, but you can't change the time shown on that website.
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Re: Lambeth - windscreen PCN - code 12s - Cutcombe Road (A)
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2023, 03:27:33 pm »
If the amount goes up to 195 prematurely, take another screenshot but with another window open showing https://time.is/

The reason being that the council could try arguing you fiddled with the time and date on your own computer, but you can't change the time shown on that website.

Thanks will try on the date website says it will increase to 195..

Also, good to get your input on if the error in their letter saying I supplied evidence for payment on 25 October (when in fact I did supply evidence for 26 OCtober) and PCN was issued on 26 October now means there is a very good chance of winning at tribunal? Of course next stage is NTO to lease co - then transfer liability to me and new NTO to me.