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Hi All
Wanted to ask some advice. Got a PCN for going down a road which doesnt allow cars. This road used to allow cars but appears that from the 19th August hasnt done. the council is trialling these measures and is consulting at present over this https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-08/REf80-press-notice.pdf. There is widespread disagreement that this actually reduces traffic but thats an aside. I wanted to know whether there were any valid grounds for objections - we havent used this road for a while so didnt pay attention fully as it was also a Saturday.
Will try and upload the PCN as the folder is full
Thank you

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Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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It says "This Penalty Charge Notice has 4 pages" - rest of PCN, please.




Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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The other 2 pages are just payment details and nothing of note

Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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The other 2 pages are just payment details and nothing of note
Except that sometimes the text is flawed and makes the PCN invalid

Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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Ok will post in a min


Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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It is really important to check their website regularly as we won a  case last week due to errors re dates of payment etc.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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Hello
Sorry would you be able to provide a little more detail on this - there isn’t anything on the weblink about when payment has to be made by?

Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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Hi @Hippocrates just following up - can you clarify?

Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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I received a PCN for the same 'offence'. I have been going the same route to visit friends for years and this took me by surprise. It is not at all clear when travelling along Rosendale Road in Northbound direction that access to Eastmearn Road via a left turn is now prohibited. You can only see the signs when you make the turn, at which point you have drivers behind you and feel as though you have to go through and complete the turn. I realised this at the time (after seeing plant boxes) but was hoping that the system had not yet been switched on. Surely there should be some advanced warning signs on Rosendale Road to give notice of the new measures. Also, no consideration is made for non-robotic drivers who are not following a sat nav at all times! If you have travelled this route many times you do not expect a sudden change.
In my case, it occurred on 06/10, PCN was issued on 21/10, 50% 'discount'(£65) until 15/11 and then rise to £130.

Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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I received a PCN for the same 'offence'. I have been going the same route to visit friends for years and this took me by surprise. It is not at all clear when travelling along Rosendale Road in Northbound direction that access to Eastmearn Road via a left turn is now prohibited. You can only see the signs when you make the turn, at which point you have drivers behind you and feel as though you have to go through and complete the turn. I realised this at the time (after seeing plant boxes) but was hoping that the system had not yet been switched on. Surely there should be some advanced warning signs on Rosendale Road to give notice of the new measures. Also, no consideration is made for non-robotic drivers who are not following a sat nav at all times! If you have travelled this route many times you do not expect a sudden change.
In my case, it occurred on 06/10, PCN was issued on 21/10, 50% 'discount'(£65) until 15/11 and then rise to £130.

Please start your own thread.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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Hi @Hippocrates just following up - can you clarify?

@nasmin

This:

Penalty Charge Notice details
Ticket ReferenceLJ31113664
Your PCN is at discount stage. PCN process information
Vehicle Registration NumberBN66NCO
ColourRED
MakeJAGUAR
Contravention52m - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)
LocationEastmearn Road
First seen atSat, 5 Oct 2024 9:36
Issued atSat, 5 Oct 2024 9:36
Served byPost
The amount outstanding on the Charge Notice will increase to £130.00 on Tue, 12 Nov 2024. Please pay £65.00 now.


Please do your own and save it since the date in red is whacko as per the case below and it is an unreasonable threat which usurps the statutory process.

**

Case won recently:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/motorbike-52m-pcn-lambeth/msg41795/#msg41795
« Last Edit: October 27, 2024, 11:18:24 am by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Lambeth, Code 52, failure to comply with prohibition, Eastmearn Road
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I have had same PCN in Lambeth...you are correct, these signs were not there 3 months ago.....read my post
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/help-for-pcn-lambeth-code-52m-prohibition-of-moving-motor-vehicle/


it is very unfair....

are you going to appeal?

have you found any formal grounds to appeal?
« Last Edit: October 28, 2024, 10:07:25 pm by Bradley-29 »