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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
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You could call TEC to check directly with them if the debt is registered, contact details here:
Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC) - Find a Court or Tribunal - GOV.UK
Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC) - Find contact details, opening times, how to get to here, types of cases managed, disabled access to the building
find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk


You cannot file the statutory declaration with TEC until the debt has been registered, if you send them the form beforehand they'll just rejected as there's nothing on file.

Once the Order for Recovery is served you have 21 days, so a 1 week absence should not be a problem. Obviously sending the forms to TEC by email gives you the advantage that it gets there instantly.
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Thanks for the info about the process. Is it usual for it to take so long before the Order for Recovery? I just looked at the Hounslow website again and the penalty is still listed as £195. Just wondering if it's generally triggered after certain period, or just done ad hoc?
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It's very much ad-hoc, you just need to keep on checking once every 10 days or so.
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Returning to the topic because I check the status from time to time and note that it hasn't changed, which is still 'CC Sent'. The original PCN was issued on 08/03/23 so it coming up to almost a year. Is it usual to have such a long wait?
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Quote from: efunc on January 24, 2024, 10:34:17 pm
Returning to the topic because I check the status from time to time and note that it hasn't changed, which is still 'CC Sent'. The original PCN was issued on 08/03/23 so it coming up to almost a year. Is it usual to have such a long wait?
Yes, but what was the CC date ?
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Quote from: Incandescent on January 25, 2024, 01:13:36 am
Quote from: efunc on January 24, 2024, 10:34:17 pm
Returning to the topic because I check the status from time to time and note that it hasn't changed, which is still 'CC Sent'. The original PCN was issued on 08/03/23 so it coming up to almost a year. Is it usual to have such a long wait?
Yes, but what was the CC date ?
26.6.2023  (reply 9)

New VCA certificate effective from 13th March 2023 for a Yunex (Zenco) "Lanewatch" fixed cameras.

We have a Barking and Dagenham  case which has been referred to the Tribunal: original PCN issued in November 2022!  Let's get this done by the rules.

PM sent.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2024, 02:30:29 am by Hippocrates »
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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
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Quote from: Hippocrates on January 25, 2024, 02:11:53 am
Quote from: Incandescent on January 25, 2024, 01:13:36 am
Quote from: efunc on January 24, 2024, 10:34:17 pm
Returning to the topic because I check the status from time to time and note that it hasn't changed, which is still 'CC Sent'. The original PCN was issued on 08/03/23 so it coming up to almost a year. Is it usual to have such a long wait?
Yes, but what was the CC date ?
26.6.2023  (reply 9)

New VCA certificate effective from 13th March 2023 for a Yunex (Zenco) "Lanewatch" fixed cameras.

We have a Barking and Dagenham  case which has been referred to the Tribunal: original PCN issued in November 2022!  Let's get this done by the rules.

PM sent.
So it is 6 months since the period to pay the CC expired. Seems to me this is abuse of process.
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« Reply #22 on: »
They are probably dilly dallying because of the camera issue which they know they will lose.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #23 on: »
Thanks for the reply. We were also curious if the imminent transfer of Chiswick out of Hounslow and into the Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham may have something to do with it(?), but probably unlikely! Will respond to your PM, thanks
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« Reply #24 on: »
Cheers.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
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Having again read this thread, I reckon that your family want this to be resolved asap.  I suggest you authorise me now so that I can write to them regarding the clear and unacceptable blockage in the process and either they get on with it or cancel forthwith.  For sure, it would be nice to get this to the Tribunal etc; but, I always take into consideration the OP's needs and circumstances. Just rest assured:  there is no way you would lose this!
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I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #26 on: »
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We were also curious if the imminent transfer of Chiswick out of Hounslow and into the Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham may have something to do with it(?), but probably unlikely!

Very unlikely . . . as I understand it, Chiswick is merely being added to Hammersmith parliamentary constituency at the next General Election.
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« Reply #27 on: »
Let's take this by the horns. 
« Last Edit: February 01, 2024, 05:20:39 am by Hippocrates »
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #28 on: »
The obvious way to progress this is via the formal complaints route. It sounds like Hippocrates might be willing to take this on so I'd suggest you take up his offer.
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Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
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I am on the case. I will ask for immediate cancellation, otherwise we would be looking at an out of time Stat. Dec. and then back to the Tribunal - possibly.  :o  The B and D case still has  not been looked at!
« Last Edit: February 02, 2024, 11:50:41 am by Hippocrates »
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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