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Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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Hello Experts,

I have received this pcn, there were no yellow lines and i was not blocking any driveway, not sure, why did I get this PCN. Please could someone help.

Thanks

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Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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Street view shows only the South end of Amhurst gardens is in a Controlled Parking Zone, but the Hounslow map shows that the rest of road is now also in a (different) parking zone.  So you should have passed a sign as you drove in highlighting the change in Zone.  Are you able to go back and have a look / take pictures?
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Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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There aren't any road markings in the council's photos therefore either this is a monumental c**k-up by them or they consider that you were parked in a Permit Parking Area(not a controlled zone, but a PPA).

But there aren't any photos of a PPA sign either!

IMO, evidentially their photos are b******s, but this won't necessarily stop them at this stage!

Are you able to return to see whether PPA signs are present - see this link to their form and use: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c78f895e5274a0ebfec719b/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf

para. 13.10.
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Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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There's nothing about a PPA on the map or in the latest notice of order, which refers to a CPZ - I can't find the actual order.

Resident permit parking is indicated along both sides of most of the road.





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Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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Where are the markings?
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Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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There are a number of small CPZs there or what they call CPZs - if they are CPZs there is no contravention as CPZs can't have unrestricted kerbs. 

We need to see zone signage in the area.



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Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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Thanks you all for the replies. I would visit the road over the weekend and post it here, what exactly i should look for please?
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Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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Look for CPZ signs - (I have posted the boundaries they have on their map above):




And/or permit parking area signs:



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Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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I visited the area over the weekend, these are the pictures from both ends of Amhurst Gardens and some from the middle of the road.

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Please let me know if this is sufficient or any other details would be needed.
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Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
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So it's a PPA. It's a bit strange having one starting part way on a road that also has a CPZ.

It looks to be well signed with entry signs on both sides and repeater signs.

The only thing I can see to question is the order establishing it as it doesn't appear on their order map.

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