Author Topic: Liverpool Council PCN  (Read 78 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

owens_2k

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 14
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Liverpool Council PCN
« on: January 30, 2025, 02:33:33 pm »
Hi,

A long shot this one.

Driver paid cash at machine and then stupidly forgot to actually take the ticket out of it before leaving the area.

Also didn't tell me about it until after the 14 day discount period!

Any grounds for appeal at all?




Many thanks

Share on Bluesky Share on Facebook


stamfordman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1498
  • Karma: +37/-1
    • View Profile
Re: Liverpool Council PCN
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2025, 04:47:36 pm »
Post the PCN with no reductions as per:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

You may just have a plea that you did buy a ticket and they can check machine logs but Liverpool is not a forgiving authority. If the contravention had been parked without paying you'd have stronger grounds but it's not displaying a valid ticket.

owens_2k

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 14
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Liverpool Council PCN
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2025, 11:40:03 am »
Post the PCN with no reductions as per:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

You may just have a plea that you did buy a ticket and they can check machine logs but Liverpool is not a forgiving authority. If the contravention had been parked without paying you'd have stronger grounds but it's not displaying a valid ticket.
Thanks for getting back to me. Problem is anyone could have come and purchased tickets between this payment and the PCN being issued

Might just be one I have to accept defeat on.

Incandescent

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3549
  • Karma: +81/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Crewe
    • View Profile
Re: Liverpool Council PCN
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2025, 12:24:12 pm »
Did the parking ticket machine require entry of the vehicle reg number ? If so there will be an audit trail, (or should be !!).

stamfordman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1498
  • Karma: +37/-1
    • View Profile
Re: Liverpool Council PCN
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2025, 12:51:39 pm »
If you post the PCN as asked we may be able to find something.

owens_2k

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 14
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Liverpool Council PCN
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2025, 01:55:09 pm »
If you post the PCN as asked we may be able to find something.
I have included the redacted parts now



owens_2k

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 14
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Liverpool Council PCN
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2025, 01:57:00 pm »
Did the parking ticket machine require entry of the vehicle reg number ? If so there will be an audit trail, (or should be !!).
Unfortunately it's one of those where you pay for a period of time and just put the ticket/voucher on your dashboard.

stamfordman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1498
  • Karma: +37/-1
    • View Profile
Re: Liverpool Council PCN
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2025, 03:22:40 pm »
I think all you have is a polite ask that you did buy a ticket and they could kindly check their records - do you have an idea why you didn't put the ticket in your car?

The bay seems to have a parking sign although in 2022 the P was covered by a sticker. The machine instructions are clear. Good clear shots by the CEO.






owens_2k

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 14
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Liverpool Council PCN
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2025, 05:10:48 pm »
I think all you have is a polite ask that you did buy a ticket and they could kindly check their records - do you have an idea why you didn't put the ticket in your car?

The bay seems to have a parking sign although in 2022 the P was covered by a sticker. The machine instructions are clear. Good clear shots by the CEO.

I was told they inserted the money and pressed the button but got distracted and completely forgot to take the ticket out the machine. Then they just went on their way.