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My employer (a company/registered keeper) has been issued yet another PCN from Bexley Council for a contravention code 55 - A commercial vehicle parked in a restricted street in contravention of the Overnight Waiting Ban. I have had 2 previous PCNs that I appealed, accepted. And had a previous PCN that was paid, refunded. This time they have rejected my initial challenge and now my formal representations, so it will go to the London Tribunal.

This is merely a summary of their behaviours, but the full list of issues and failures by the Council is extensive.


The Council's conduct has been wholly unreasonable in defending the penalty charge notice (PCN), primarily because they have:

Ignored Their Own Admissions: In previous correspondence regarding this specific area, the Council's own internal department formally admitted in writing that local repeater signs were required and missing, confirming the scheme is defective. Despite this, the Council continues to enforce the restriction and rejects appeals without addressing or refuting their own evidence of non-compliance.

Defended Illegal Signage: The Council is relying on perimeter signs for their borough-wide zone, but evidence shows a critical zone-entry sign was physically altered using an adhesive sticker to change the restricted hours. This manual, non-compliant alteration violates national design rules (TSRGD), yet the Council continues to defend the validity of enforcement based on this flawed sign. Other zone signs are missing. Oh, and this zone is 60.5km² in area, contrary to the directions in TSM 2019. In a FOI requestearlier in the year they were only able to provide one location and one picture of a perimeter sign to enforce this massive area. A complaint earlier in the year they told me they are unable to provide the locations of all the borough perimeter signs for the prohibition.

Abused Statutory Process: In their formal rejection, the Council abandoned the legal test (compliant signage for the public) and justified the charge by claiming the registered keeper had been privately advised of the restriction (they actually only told me, and i have done my best to inform our 800+ drivers. They are attempting to enforce based on an individual's private knowledge rather than fulfilling their statutory duty to ensure compliant public signage for a motorist of average prudence.

I am currently waiting for a response to a more thorough FOI request I submitted which they were meant to respond to in full last Monday (8th December). I plan to use the information in my London Tribunal. They were also supposed to respond to my formal complaint last Wednesday (despite actually submitting it in September) regarding the very clear issues and failure, but I've heard nothing, but told it has been logged as a stage 1 complaint which they aim to respond to in 15 days.

Essentially, the local signage is non existent, the perimeter signage is about 5 miles away, and so far I have only seen evidence of one of these signs existing despite their claim that they are on every road in to Bexley. I have dashcam footage from multiple vehicles showing perimeter signs not being present on several routes into Bexley. This one sign Bexley relies on, is on Thames Road, and has had a sticker placed over the time the restriction applies, altering it, as it is the wrong font and size and removes the hyphen. So, it is non compliant also.

So, I want to know if I can request the adjudicator awards costs to us for the Councils unreasonable behaviour. They are just wasting my time, their own time, not just the traffic penalty enforcement team, but complaints team and whoever deals with FOI requests, and the London Tribunals time.

I have put the evidence infront of Bexley 3 times now, just for this PCN, which clearly supports the cancellation of the PCN, yet they reject it because they have previously informed me of the restriction in place, as if I'm suppose to baby sit 800 drivers, and it absolves the council of their responsibility to have sufficient and compliant signage for a prohabition they wish to enforce. It's ridiculous.


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In general terms, costs can be awarded for or against either party, whether they win or lose actually.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2025, 12:03:24 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Understandable. Say if I was going to request it, would I put it in writing, or ask during the hearing? And do I need to calculate an amount or is there set costs that they can award?


https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/costs

"If you wish to apply for costs and expenses, you must make a written application as soon as possible after the adjudicator's decision, setting out precisely what expenses you have incurred and why you have incurred them.

Your application for costs will then be referred to the adjudicator for a decision."

Okay, that answers part of the question. I would submit the request after the decision, presumably by post or email.

Perhaps this is not the best route to solve this issue. I was hoping this could deter the council from continuing this crap, as the London Tribunal decisions against them so far for this exact issue have not been the kick up the arse they need. I have put in a complaint to the Department for Transport this evening and I may write to my MP too. I suspect there will be thousands of companies and people that have been essentially scammed by them. Unfortunately, the council haven't provided any of the information I requested under FOIA for me to find out the scale of the issue here. So, annoyingly, that's going to have to be a complaint to the ICO too.

I was hoping this could deter the council from continuing this crap
This whole section of the forum stands as evidence of just how little will deter most councils from continuing this crap  ;D

The thing that most councils hate is bad publicity so if you have a local paper send them the story or try national newspapers.
I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.

Understandable. Say if I was going to request it, would I put it in writing, or ask during the hearing? And do I need to calculate an amount or is there set costs that they can award?

If and when the appeal is won, you may wish to raise it, depending on what the adjudicator has said in the hearing. In my experience, some adjudicators would simply say to make the application within 14 days. I tend not to ask as I prefer to wait for the decision which will indicate how the adjudicator might view an application. I wrote a costs application for member Glitch last year and he was successful - but had to work for it in the hearing.

My modus operandi is to cite statements from the decision and concentrate upon them in order to convince the adjudicator (who almost always will be the same) to draw a distinction between wholly unreasonable conduct and wholly incompetent conduct.

There is a Key Case decision which I lost v Southwark this year which cites the relevant authority.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

I was hoping this could deter the council from continuing this crap
This whole section of the forum stands as evidence of just how little will deter most councils from continuing this crap  ;D
Lol I know, but we can still hope right?...Right?  ???

The thing that most councils hate is bad publicity so if you have a local paper send them the story or try national newspapers.
orrr to ITV, for "Tonight - Parking Problems - Part 2: Unjust Enrichment"

At one time there was a London-wide ban on overnight parking of vehicles over 3.5 tons. I don't know when that was rescinded or if it has been replace by similar n a borough-wide scheme.
Bus driving since 1973. My advice, if you have a PSV licence, destroy it when you get to 65 or you'll be forever in demand.