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Re: North Ayrshire - Code 87 - disabled bay PNC
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Quote from: stamfordman on April 06, 2026, 03:29:12 pm
Can't you send reps online?

It does not appear that I can do this online, after logging back in to the portal the same options to pay or appeal remain but nothing to make formal representations.

Also, which box do I tick?

"The contravention did not occur"
"Other Reason"
"The traffic order is invalid"


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Re: North Ayrshire - Code 87 - disabled bay PNC
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What happens here:

North Ayrshire Council PCN Portal
pcnportal.north-ayrshire.gov.uk
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Re: North Ayrshire - Code 87 - disabled bay PNC
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Quote from: stamfordman on April 06, 2026, 06:28:12 pm
What happens here:

https://pcnportal.north-ayrshire.gov.uk/VEH/Live/3sc/3sc-us/

When I navigate here and enter my reg and penalty charge notice number I get presented with the option to Pay or Appeal.



if I click on appeal it takes me to the same page I initially used to make an informal appeal.



Should I tick "The contravention did not occur"?

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Re: North Ayrshire - Code 87 - disabled bay PNC
« Reply #48 on: »
Schedule 6 para. 2(4) of the RTA 1991:

Road Traffic Act 1991
An Act to amend the law about road traffic.
legislation.gov.uk


Their website is wholly improper as is the NTO because individually and in combination they misinform an owner of their right to make representations which, as the Act makes clear, is not restricted to a single ground, neither do they fall into the website's arbitrary groups of PCN Improperly Issued etc.


It is wholly improper for the authority to restrict an owner to selecting one ground. So, IMO tick 'contravention did not..', ' penalty charge exceeded..' and 'other reasons'. Under the 'other..' ground put that it is contrary to the Act's requirements for the authority to attempt to restrict an owner to a single ground!

Now do you think they really know what they're doing or are they just doing it 'their' way because that's what they've always done!
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Re: North Ayrshire - Code 87 - disabled bay PNC
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Quote from: tincombe on April 07, 2026, 10:23:45 am
Schedule 6 para. 2(4) of the RTA 1991:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1991/40/schedule/6

Their website is wholly improper as is the NTO because individually and in combination they misinform an owner of their right to make representations which, as the Act makes clear, is not restricted to a single ground, neither do they fall into the website's arbitrary groups of PCN Improperly Issued etc.


It is wholly improper for the authority to restrict an owner to selecting one ground. So, IMO tick 'contravention did not..', ' penalty charge exceeded..' and 'other reasons'. Under the 'other..' ground put that it is contrary to the Act's requirements for the authority to attempt to restrict an owner to a single ground!

Now do you think they really know what they're doing or are they just doing it 'their' way because that's what they've always done!

This is my problem with local authorities, they don't want to spend money to do anything correctly but want everyone to pay through the nose for X, Y and Z.

Had they repainted those bays to promote them and actually make them usable for disabled drivers it would have been obvious and I'd have never parked there. They simply didn't want to spend the money so just put a sign up and started enforcement, effectively trapping people like myself who have parked there for years and get there early while it is still dark.

Perhaps their thought process was that people would nose dive in, in which case the sign would be right in front of you. They obviously didn't consider that people may dare to reverse, given it is way easier, especially for the first bay.
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Re: North Ayrshire - Code 87 - disabled bay PNC
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Hi Everyone,

I received the response to my formal representations, and the PCN has been cancelled.

The council confirmed that the signage was not authorised or installed by the council. Additionally as the bay is not supported by approved traffic regulation order signage, it is not legally enforceable.

Looks like a technicality has ended this before it went to the parking adjudicator.

Thank you all for supporting me through this process.
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Re: North Ayrshire - Code 87 - disabled bay PNC
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They often look at things properly at formal stage and it seems this was never authorised as they say as they are obviously not proper disabled bays. One wonders who put those signs up.
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Re: North Ayrshire - Code 87 - disabled bay PNC
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Quote from: stamfordman on April 17, 2026, 01:17:54 pm
They often look at things properly at formal stage and it seems this was never authorised as they say as they are obviously not proper disabled bays. One wonders who put those signs up.

My guess is that the maritime museum has done this. Since those bays are directly at it's entrance.

I might find that those signs are removed soon.
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