Author Topic: Brent Council; Code 32d failing to drive in direction of arrow; TFL; Edgware Road  (Read 74 times)

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hot_chocolate

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Hi everyone,

I've received a PCN from TFL from taking a left turn from Edgware Road. The traffic light had a straight arrow, but there are no signs saying a left turn was not permitted. I didn't think the straight arrow actually meant one-way only.

I've attached the PCN images over two posts (I previously tried to attach via imagr, but for some reason did not come up)

Your guidance would be most appreciated. Thank you.

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I didn't think the straight arrow actually meant one-way only.
Unfortunately that is what it does mean.

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what else would it mean??

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Please post a GSV view to the location so we can make a final check

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Thank you everyone. To be honest, I can't recall if I saw the straight arrow sign on the traffic light - I did when I saw the GSV image. But assuming I did see it, I'm certain I interpreted it as a guidance indicator for the straight direction rather than as a restriction against turning left. Since I was expecting a 'No Left Turn' sign for explicit clarity, I was unaware that the arrow inherently prohibits left turns without additional signage.

Kindly find attached an image of the traffic light - here is the link to the location too: https://maps.app.goo.gl/bXTqV9aLqAnH5nEb6

Thank you again.

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Well, I have to say, based on your photo and GSV view that you look bang-to-rights on the contravention itself, but this may not mean it's game-over as many appeals are won on what the council have failed to do correctly. They must obey the law same as you when they throw PCNs around like confetti. So there may be a 'technical' appeal argument, but as these are invariably dealt with at London Tribunals you must be prepared to forego the discount option.

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Thank you.

What would the 'technical' grounds be in this case, if I were willing to take that far?

Is anyone aware of any past cases at this location, or similar, where the pcn has been rejected at the tribunal on technical grounds?