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Please help me appeal this

PCN and photos: https://imgpile.com/p/kaGNyD0

I genuinely didn't see the sign because of the tight turn from Whitecross Street turning left onto Old St. I was only in the bus lane briefly - 10 seconds or less before turning left again onto Golden Lane.

Road worn out and white paint also not super easy to see.



Thank you

The only place you're going to get an unbiased hearing is at London Tribunals with the full PCN penalty in play. The first thing you're going to have to explain is how you missed this sign: -

and also this one which is a short distance down Old Street after the turn from Whitecross Street: -


I've assumed these signs are still present, the GSV views are 2022 for Whitecross Street, and 2025 for Old Street

Exit from a side street into a street with a bus lane does not require the council to install a Bus Lane sign immediately on the left turn, but they must advise motorists intending to turn left that there is a bus lane after the turn. Here they seem to have done so, but I have my dounbt as to whether the sign in Whitecross Street is a traffic sign as defined in The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016

As you day, GSV shows the serious deterioration in the road markings, some of the worst I have seen in bus lane cases.

Assuming you get to London Tribunals, there is also another arrow in your quiver, but assuming Hippocrates sees this, I'l  let him explain it to you by PM

However, your first move is to submit representations to the council on the basis of what you have told us in your opening narrative. Did you drive your car out of the bus lane when you saw the sign on Old Street ?

Thanks for the responses so far. Will hold

@ Incandescent. I didn’t but that’s because I was turning left onto Golden Lane. The left turn lane is basically the bus lane. So basically it was the stretch from Whitecross St past EasyHotel then left turn into Golden Lane which I was in the bus lane for.

OK, but fear not, because Hippocrates has a very strong appeal for bus lane PCNs, so will be in touch.

Thanks for the responses

https://imgpile.com/p/BooWGVH

Took some more pics

The “Bus lane” sign is bent leftwards on Whitecross Street. Also such a dumb position because I can’t see it from the driver side easily

From the left turn angle the blue sign is not visible and by the time in it it’s too late.

The white lines for the bus lane are super faint

The tarmac which is meant to be red is very faded

I could make the argument that I was in it for 10m or less also having looked at placement of camera.

Worth adding any of these to Hippocrates rebuttal? Thanks

Thanks for the responses

https://imgpile.com/p/BooWGVH

Took some more pics

The “Bus lane” sign is bent leftwards on Whitecross Street. Also such a dumb position because I can’t see it from the driver side easily

From the left turn angle the blue sign is not visible and by the time in it it’s too late.

The white lines for the bus lane are super faint

The tarmac which is meant to be red is very faded

I could make the argument that I was in it for 10m or less also having looked at placement of camera.

Worth adding any of these to Hippocrates rebuttal? Thanks

PLEASE FOLLOW MY VERSION TO THE LETTER. NO MORE NO LESS.

Cheers. Thank you. Will let you know what they say

I have a crystal ball - as we all do.

Bump please. Any help appreciated.