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Re: Barnet, code 53J entering in pedestrian zone, Nether St right turn into Moss Hall Grove
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Thanks Marmite, I go to tribunal tomorrow
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Re: Barnet, code 53J entering in pedestrian zone, Nether St right turn into Moss Hall Grove
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Very well done indeed.  :)


The Appellant has attended for her three appeals.

The Authority's case is that the Appellant's vehicle failed to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone when in Nether Street/Moss Hall Grove on 26 June and 9 and 12 July 2024.

The Appellant's case is that the signage was insufficient when turning right into this pedestrian zone. She argued that the signage at the entrance to the zone on the right hand sign and the warning signage were obscured by foliage, and that the sign plate on the left hand side was at a disadvantaged angle. The Appellant has produced signage and some page from the Traffic Signs Manuals in support of her case, which I have considered.

I have considered all the evidence in this case, and I find it to be a borderline case, which just falls in the Appellant's favour. I find, on a balance of probabilities, that these three contravention are not proved.

I find the signage at this location, whilst compliant with the regulations, was overall inadequate for the Appellant's vehicle when turning right into this zone on the 26 June and 9 and 12 July 2024.

I find that the sign plate on the Appellant's right hand side was obscured by foliage and this includes the warning signage on the approach to this pedestrian zone. Further, I find that the sign plate on the left hand side of the road was not facing in the direction of the Appellant's travel and would be too easily missed.

The appeals are allowed.
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Re: Barnet, code 53J entering in pedestrian zone, Nether St right turn into Moss Hall Grove
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I have just received my GFY notice from the council 2 weeks after this judgement. I was debating whether to contest it or not. Can you please give me the PCN no and or Adjudication number and date of your hearing for my defense.  Thank you. Ben
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Re: Barnet, code 53J entering in pedestrian zone, Nether St right turn into Moss Hall Grove
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I will do so via a PM. Please start your own thread.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2024, 07:57:15 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Barnet, code 53J entering in pedestrian zone, Nether St right turn into Moss Hall Grove
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I have been toing and froing with Barnet for several months now.

My hearing is set for this Sat 22nd Feb.

I have told them numerous times that this has already been adjudicated in the Appelants favour several times already and sent them all the 4 case references you sent me a while back. I also told the Adjudicator the matter has already been decided.

Not only that Barnet have removed the old sign, put a much larger one in a more prominent position.

I mailed a copy of this to Barnet imploring them to drop it and yet they just sent their brief/case to the Adjudicator last week.

Not only that they wrote to me to say that the sign was compliant in size and location two weeks after the matter was adjudicated against them.

I really don't want to go in anymore on Saturday.  How many times has this been adjudicated in the A's favour now all together? Can you send me the references please.

Can't I take any action against Barnet for their reckless and deceitful conduct ?
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Re: Barnet, code 53J entering in pedestrian zone, Nether St right turn into Moss Hall Grove
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Please start your own thread. 100% of Appeals are not won here so talk of any action is unrealistic. If you want to punish the council go stand there waving your arms about and stop others making an error
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Re: Barnet, code 53J entering in pedestrian zone, Nether St right turn into Moss Hall Grove
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@BenD Now two members have asked you to start your own thread.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Barnet, code 53J entering in pedestrian zone, Nether St right turn into Moss Hall Grove
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Appeal successful,  thank you. Your advice has been invaluable. Do you need a copy of the decision ?

Donation to the Hospice on its way.
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