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I am trying to park here.   When I have created my post I upload the image, created from postmimages.org.   I used the forum setting  640x480   but I get a message 'Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 94371840 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 20480 bytes) in C:\inetpub\createaforum\Sources\Subs-Graphics.php on line 382'   I removed the file and tried to post it without the image.  I got a message that I have previously submitted this and I am posting it twice.   Yes, I did, but cannot see it on the forum.

I am stuck.  Can anybody help a simpleton like me, on where I am going wrong.  Thanks.

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Upload an image to Google Drive or similar cloud storage, share with everyone and post the link maybe?

There is a detailed guide here that you should read: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

If you get stuck, drop me a PM and I'll help you out.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Hi.  I didn’t get very far.  I loaded it to Google Drive.  Now it wants me to access my account to view it?   I am not sure I want to give a third party access to my account.

I am sorry to ask if someone could kindly talk me through the procedure.

Thanks.

PCN:



So here I reckon: https://maps.app.goo.gl/PWrUXxSR7GfB3pci6

Can you please confirm?

If that's the location, can you please check if this sign saying "park in marked bays only" is still present?

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« Last Edit: November 10, 2023, 11:18:26 am by cp8759 »
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Thank you for doing that.  It is the correct location.    Where are the "park in marked bays only" signs?   I can't see them on the photos.

I will go over tomorrow - in daylight!


GSV shows the only sign is situated on the post adjacent to the front of your car.

We need to see this sign(if still there), whether there's one on the opposite side of the road and the parking place traffic sign for the bay in which you were parked.

Sorry HCA I didn't see your post till this afternoon.

I went over this morning and took a couple of photos of the signage.   It didn't occur to me that you would want the other side of the road as well.   As far as I can recall there was only a 'residents permit' sign on the other side of the road.

(Okay I have tried to load the two photos, but they don't seem to be appearing).

I will say that the first one shows the parking with two wheels on the pavement sign, but underneath that is a plate for a much smaller sign, but it is empty.  That is the sign in front of my car.  Obviously I don't know if something should be there, and isn't, but there is definitely a plate for something.    The other sign is 'residents permit holders only Mon-Sat 8am until 6.30pm.

I was also battling against bright sunshine on the road.

Do you require any further information?   (I am out this evening).

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I think I would argue triviality, parked at night, slightly outside a bay and only on the kerbstone with one wheel
I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.


You could go with the simple(no disrespect intended) argument suggested.

Maybe for later..

The single pavement parking sign is 24/7;
It conveys the meaning that vehicles MAY park (not must, may) on the footway within marked bays;
The so-called marked bays are actually parking places and are in force in accordance with their respective traffic signs;
So, what would happen if a motorist parked on the carriageway during the time the parking places are restricted? If they are 'marked bays' in the context of footway parking, then nothing is permitted, it's optional. But I bet you'd get a PCN for not parking wholly in a bay!

In short:
You parked on the footway because you assumed that as the footway parking sign applies 24/7 and the marked bays only Mon-Sat **** then, as the time was outside this period, the markings didn't apply. If the council think that the markings apply 24/7, then why have they placed signs to the contrary within these areas?

They are totally confused; the pavement parking sign is incorrect and should be removed; the signs in the parking places should be replaced with item 3 Part 4 here: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/4/made

Thank you.  Firstly something off-topic.  Your user name always reminds me of a dj on Radio Caroline.  They often used false names and one guy got hold of some American tapes and used the name Herb Oscar Anderson!

Anyway, back to my ticket.  It seems if I challenge the ticket within 14 days and they reject it, they will allow another 14 days to pay the reduced penalty charge.   So it is worth doing.  What do you think of the chances that they will accept the challenge?

Almost zero
I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.

Oh, okay.  But I may as well challenge it because it will give me another 14 days with the money in my pocket instead of theirs!

You've taken a photo of the sign from the wrong side, we need to see the sign as seen from here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/zTyvLiG85opnoF5d9
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

I can do that tomorrow, rain (forecast!) permitting !

However, what will that prove?