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PCN Today- 52M - BAGLEYS LANE - London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham
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Hi, received a PCN today  :( hope you can help me please

I have read this person's case on the same road HERE but I was coming the other way.

I don't know the area and was looking for parking to go to a restaurant.

Contravention:  52M – Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles.
Place – Bagley Lane NWbnd nos 2A-12

PCN Letters: https://imgur.com/a/HJMGKd8

Video: https://streamable.com/3ghph3

Images: https://imgur.com/a/U5LRlTp

This is my draft Grounds for Representation - selecting THE PENALTY EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT APPLICABLE IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CASE:

Dear Sir/Madam

I kindly request that you consider my case for discretion, as I was unaware of the restrictions in the area. I am not local to the borough and was visiting the area to go to the restaurant Beit El Zaytoun on 24A New Kings Rd, and so was accessing a local facility and not using the route as a cut-through.

At the time, I did not see any signs indicating the restrictions. Had I been aware of the restrictions or seen clear signage, I would have avoided entering Bagleys Lane entirely. Additionally, I did not take a shortcut to avoid traffic.

This is my first PCN for this area and road, and I sincerely apologise for this inadvertent mistake. I assure you that I had no intention of violating any restrictions and understand the importance of adhering to all local traffic regulations.
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Re: PCN Today- 52M - BAGLEYS LANE - London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham
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That's about the best you can do without anything else but I think this council has now stopped using discretion for the filters in this area after a long run of doing so for first timers.

Your video shows two cars turning left into signs that are high up and tribunal appeals are won on inadequate signs in certain directions so we can check the register.
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You were turning left from Cresford Road into Bagley's Lane. GSV shows that the signs are visible as you get to the turn : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/e2zf41Xcs1pkrKbr7

On the other hand, it was night, and the signs are not illuminated, and probably would not be lit by your car headlights because they are so high up. It's not possible to see if there is any warning sign on Cresford Road, because GSV is too out-of-date, (May 2015): -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LE3K2VGCrGcnWA6u5

The other thing is that the sign allows "access". So please tell us where you were going.
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Quote from: Incandescent on April 11, 2025, 12:02:03 am
You were turning left from Cresford Road into Bagley's Lane. GSV shows that the signs are visible as you get to the turn : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/e2zf41Xcs1pkrKbr7

On the other hand, it was night, and the signs are not illuminated, and probably would not be lit by your car headlights because they are so high up. It's not possible to see if there is any warning sign on Cresford Road, because GSV is too out-of-date, (May 2015): -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LE3K2VGCrGcnWA6u5

The other thing is that the sign allows "access". So please tell us where you were going.

Thanks for your reply. I am unsure what do you mean by "please tell us where you were going"? Sorry.

If I understood your question correctly, I trying to find parking, as I was going to to Beit El Zaytoun on 24A New Kings Rd, SW6 4SA. It's a restaurant.

I ended up finding parking Ringo Location: 17730 which is on Granville Pl, near Dan Leno Walk according to Google Maps
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OK, fine. I'm not sure if you can claim "access" because your destination was not on Bagley's Lane, albeit it was very, very,  close, almost opposite where Bagley's Lane joins New King's Road. "Access" normally means visiting premises on the restricted street.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/g9ABosBMwfp74iAG9
Were you following a satnav ?

Wait a bit to see what others say, but don't miss the deadline for the discount, if you are unwilling to take the matter all the way to adjudication.
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Collateral challenge: the PCN limits to one ground whereas the law states one or other grounds.
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