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Waltham Forest Code 34 - Being in a Bus Lane
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I am a private hire driver working for uber etc..

I was picking up an elderly person at this location and unfortunately I couldn’t get ahold of them by telephone. After a few minutes I managed to connect with them and picked them up.

I am not able to post the PCN yet as I have not received it by post, but my hire company has notified me by email of this PCN.

PCN Number: FR61081375
Reg: LR20 EVB
Location:
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Waltham forest - Pay PCN Home
The parking permits available in Waltham Forest and how to get a refund or transfer.
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Last Edit: December 06, 2023, 11:31:23 am by Hippocrates
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Done that.
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I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Dear Waltham Forest

I challenge the PCN on the following grounds:

1. The images associated do not show any signage allegedly passed.
2. There is no video in support of the allegation.

Therefore, please cancel the PCN as your evidence supplied hitherto does not prove the alleged contravention.

P.S.: I put you to strict proof that you have the proper certification for the camera involved.

Yours faithfully

Name

Address
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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I have not appealed yet as I was waiting for the PCN to be addressed to me. I have now received the PCN.

I have also checked the PCN online and there is a video viewable now. Does this mean that the appeal from the previous reply will be valid?



Video here:
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Yes re the first point clearly.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Sorry.  I missed that at the end.  Let me think about a redraft.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Quote from: mickR on December 25, 2023, 03:22:28 pm
so, what is the marked bay for that the OP pulled up in??
Either a bus stop or something else.  I am working on an idea. BUT:  we need to see the whole of the PCN first and see the details of what happened.

My idea will be somewhat technical.
Last Edit: December 25, 2023, 04:38:03 pm by Hippocrates
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I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Quote from: mickR on December 25, 2023, 03:22:28 pm
so, what is the marked bay for that the OP pulled up in??

These appear to be the marked bays

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And these the times of 'bus lane operation (all images Apr2022)
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Last Edit: December 25, 2023, 04:44:06 pm by John U.K.
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Quote from: Hippocrates on December 25, 2023, 04:23:48 pm
Quote from: mickR on December 25, 2023, 03:22:28 pm
so, what is the marked bay for that the OP pulled up in??
Either a bus stop or something else.  I am working on an idea. BUT:  we need to see the whole of the PCN first and see the details of what happened.

My idea will be somewhat technical.

It is not a bus stop but a parking bay, timed restrictions. I have put the location in the first post.

Here are some images:
https://i.ibb.co/crxJ0RG/IMG-0862.png
https://i.ibb.co/GpSfVCR/IMG-0864.jpg

Images are from Google maps street view dated April 2022
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Thanks.  Still need the PCN.  Until I see it:

1. Put them to strict proof re camera authorisation.
2. 959 sign is not readable in the video. For the benefit of the OP:  the second sign.
3. Weather etc

Re 1:  a live appeal to be heard very shortly has some interesting information from  the council in this regard.
Last Edit: December 25, 2023, 04:52:52 pm by Hippocrates
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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