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Redbridge, Parked in Special Enforement Area, Broomhill road, Goodmayes
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Hi,

Driver received PCN for parking in a special Enforcement area adjacent to a footway, carriageway or verge lowered to meet level of the carriageway.
embedded are pictures which driver feels the vehicle was not blocking driveway.
The driveway is quite large and vehicle was not blocking.
Is it worth appealing or just pay the fine?
any advice or assistance will be greatly appreciated
I have embedded links showing pictures of vehicle, PCN and location (outside 31 Broomhill road)

Thank you





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Re: Redbridge, Parked in Special Enforement Area, Broomhill road, Goodmayes
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Back in August, Stamfordman discovered this handy text & image on Hillingdon's website
Enforcement of dropped kerbs - Hillingdon Council
The council provides a service for residents and businesses that find their access blocked by a motorist.
Hillingdon Council · hillingdon.gov.uk

(scroll down)
which you can use to remind Redbridge of the law.
Last Edit: November 07, 2024, 07:39:30 am by John U.K.
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Re: Redbridge, Parked in Special Enforement Area, Broomhill road, Goodmayes
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Quote from: ek_98! on November 07, 2024, 08:00:23 am

Any drafting /assistance of the appeal response will be greatly appreciated,

Have a read through this thread for ideas,
EDITED
https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=post;msg=44313;topic=3775.0
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/parking-on-road-next-to-dropped-kerb-contravention-27/15/
and then post your draft here for comment.
Last Edit: November 08, 2024, 01:35:04 pm by John U.K.
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Re: Redbridge, Parked in Special Enforement Area, Broomhill road, Goodmayes
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Please screenshot all pages re making a representation.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Redbridge, Parked in Special Enforement Area, Broomhill road, Goodmayes
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Another of their own pics makes it clear there was no contravention.
What often happens is a resident thinks their precious dropped kerb is being encroached on and calls the council and the CEO then feels under pressure to issue a PCN but they should have told the resident to get stuffed here.

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I am challenging the PCN on the grounds that there was no contravention. As your pictures make clear, none of my car was adjacent to the fully dropped part of the kerb. The sloping part does not count.

I look forward to your early confirmation of cancellation.

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i wasnt able to open this thread:
Have a read through this thread for ideas,
https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=post;msg=44313;topic=3775.0


The driver is planning on using much of the wording that Stamfordman wrote for the appeal.

"I am challenging the PCN on the grounds that there was no contravention.
As seen in this article a contravention only occurs when part of the vehicle is physically over the point where the footway meets the road.
As your pictures make clear, none of my car was adjacent to the fully dropped part of the kerb.
Enforcement of dropped kerbs - Hillingdon Council
The council provides a service for residents and businesses that find their access blocked by a motorist.
Hillingdon Council · hillingdon.gov.uk


I look forward to your early confirmation of cancellation."

Please feel free to comment and recommend any amendments
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Quote from: ek_98! on November 08, 2024, 01:01:42 pm
i wasnt able to open this thread:
Have a read through this thread for ideas,
https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=post;msg=44313;topic=3775.0

Sorry, my bad: this is the thread I was thinking of:
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/parking-on-road-next-to-dropped-kerb-contravention-27/15/

Re yr draft:
Looks OK to me, see what others say.

Also respond to Hippocrates' post above - Reply#6
Last Edit: November 08, 2024, 01:36:49 pm by John U.K.
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Re: Redbridge, Parked in Special Enforement Area, Broomhill road, Goodmayes
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Their reply is totally wrong in law, the restriction only applies where the kerb is fully lowered, not where the kerbstone starts to slope, so this is the closest to a slam-dunk win at London Tribunal I have seen recently. In fact if you take them there, and they persist, you'd be entitled to ask for costs.  They have damned themselves in their own letter by mis-stating the law.
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