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Greenwich, 34J - Bus Lane - Camera enforcement, woolwich road sw bound , maryon park 147733

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#31
as i mentioned that I got 2 letters one dated 3/8/23 and the other 8/8/23 she replied that the my discount period ends on 19th.
I'm not sure you mentioned that here?

Post the letter dated 8 August please.

Hi cp8759

Finally found the letter dated the 8th August. Please see attached

No update from the online challenge as of yet.



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#32
Interesting FOI response.

How can they prove the camera is approved, if they don't know the make and model of the camera?
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
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#33
Parking Services-This service is contracted to Videalert. The cameras are PADM58 :-\

Presumably, the said manufacturer has a certificate from the VCA?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1180987/approved-devices-granted-to-manufacturers.ods

Videalert Ltd Rapidly Deployable Server


Device: Rapidly Deployable Server (PDS)

The VCA certificate for the council states:

Device: Rapidly Deployable Server (PDS) fixed cameras.

In reality, this council never had a certificate at all to enforce bus lane contraventions prior to 8th February.  Deary me.
Last Edit: September 02, 2023, 12:16:37 pm by Hippocrates
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#35
Personally I'd say carry on. I was meant to have a Greenwich bus lane appeal tomorrow, but the hearing's been cancelled as they haven't produced any evidence at all.

Let us know when you get the enforcement notice.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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#36
I agree as they have staffing problems.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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#37
Personally I'd say carry on. I was meant to have a Greenwich bus lane appeal tomorrow, but the hearing's been cancelled as they haven't produced any evidence at all.

Let us know when you get the enforcement notice.

Thank you , will update once I get the enforcement notice

I take it yesterdays appeal was won in your favor ? or was it basically adjourned ?

I agree as they have staffing problems.

thank you h
#38
cp said it was cancelled which means they adduced no evidence.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
#40
The representations against the Enforcement Notice are the formal ones which need to be carefully-worded.  It is also clear from two cases sometime ago that this council does watch the internet. ::)  As soon as the officers' attendance was required at the hearing(s), (as per para. 7(6) of Schedule 1 to the LLA Act 1996 (as amended), they DNCed.
Last Edit: September 07, 2023, 08:43:09 am by Hippocrates
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
#43
You can't see the status on the Greenwich website, it just says the amount due is £130. I'd wait because if they take too long to issue the enforcement notice, then you can challenge based on unfair delay.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order