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TV licence
« on: December 10, 2024, 07:14:05 pm »
We donot own a TV. We donot watch live programs on our devices. I let tvl know and have an email from them dated 20th November: "address is now registered as No Licence Needed."

We have now received a letter from them dated 27th November: "as you have not responded to our letters yet, you have left us no alternative but to proceed with final stages of investigation"

Where do we go from here?
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Re: TV license
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2024, 07:35:34 pm »
TVLA (the TV Licensing Authority (sic)) had to change their name to TVL because they ain't got not authority!

These are meaningless threatograms from a sausage machine, based on an unlawful presumption of guilt - you need to pay us for a TV licence unless you satisfy us that you don't, and we'll send you increasingly threatening letters until you comply. Personally, I struggle to distinguish such practices from harassment and aggressive trading practices.

General advice - just ignore them. However, if you have difficulty in ignoring meaningless threatening letters, please PM me your home address, I happen to have a bridge that you might be interested in buying for a very good price.

There is a wealth of advice on YT and the internet in general, which I would have thought would have been far easier to find than we are...
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2024, 11:20:52 pm »
It takes a month plus for them to get their systems into order it would seem.

A top tip - do not register an iPlayer account with the same email you have used for your no-licence needed declaration. If you do, and you use it, even elsewhere, they will email you and threaten you that "You have been watching iPlayer in breach of your no-licence needed declaration".

If you then SAR the BBC for the iPlayer records, they even know what "City" you've been watching from from your IP Address, hilarious when it's the other side of the country and they've not done anything more than "Email A = Email B" THEY MUST BE WATCHING.
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Re: TV licence
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2024, 01:06:13 am »
My partner kept getting the threatograms when she moved here 10 years ago. I told her to write back saying she doesn't have a TV, which she doesn't, and neither of us worked out how to get live TV on computers. For 3 years she got threatograms, having to register as no licence required. That didn't stop the threats of detector vans coming round, personal visits from enforcement officers etc. To date nobody has been round.

Neither of us had any real need to watch TV so never got one until earlier this year when I bought one. I still can't fathom out how the damned thing should work. I've manged to get some of the historic comedy shows on a couple of channels but it's such a faff trying to get to them easily the TV has been put away again. I really don't miss it at all.
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Re: TV licence
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2024, 01:25:35 pm »
I'm just wondering if "detector vans" really have any purpose now that most people receive TV through a cable.  Or is it just something that sounds threatening but doesn't actually happen?
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Re: TV licence
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2024, 01:41:37 pm »
There's only 2 of them to cover the entire country. I doubt the tech is there to know what channel you're watching.
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Re: TV licence
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2024, 07:25:52 pm »
Quote from: viper on December 10, 2024, 07:14:05 pm
Where do we go from here?

how about..
write back to TV licencing say you are putting them on notice you do not own a TV or watch live TV. therefore under their own rules you do not require a licence.
you are removing any implied right for any of their staff entering your property including any land. Any attempt to enter will be considered  trespass.
Further contact or demands for money will be considered as harassment.

anyone agree?
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Re: TV licence
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2024, 08:54:02 pm »
Yep, my partner done that as it's her house. :) No more hassle.
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