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M60NJP

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10% +2 Is it still a 'thing'
« on: November 04, 2023, 10:09:03 am »
I'll post up if I hear more but a few on a M/C forum are claiming places are now proceding with prosecutions at below 24 in the new 20 mph sections. The conventional wisdom from long-standing members has been that this is apochryphal (sp) and yet to be substantiated?

Has anyone been prosecuted at less than 10% +2 and can share the NIP?
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Re: 10% +2 Is it still a 'thing'
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2023, 11:09:31 am »
Can any of the people on the forum you refer to produce an NIP to support their claims?

There was a discussion about this here recently: https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/nip-10-1/ (the example in question being a good few years old)

One or two examples in over 10 years can probably be put down to clerical errors, unless we start seeing a sudden flurry of them.
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Re: 10% +2 Is it still a 'thing'
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2023, 11:24:40 am »
A mate tells me it is happening in Wales, posts on Facebook, some as low as 21mph.
Absolutely no provenance except it must be true cos it's on Facebook.
The mate has problems with reality at times.

Unless and until the ACPO alter their guidance, I cannot see it happening.
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Re: 10% +2 Is it still a 'thing'
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2023, 12:50:28 pm »
I have seen many people make such claims over the years, including a colleague at work who was adamant he got a NIP for 34 in a 30 but had to admit he was wrong after checking the paperwork.

Some people on social media get very argumentative when you don't accept what they're saying at face value, but I'm yet to see any proof.

A few years ago we had a case where someone got a NIP in Kent for something around 75 in a 70 in Kent, and when it was pointed out that this was below the prosecution threshold, Kent Police admitted the notice had been issued in error and no further action would be taken.
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