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Donostio

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Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
« on: April 04, 2024, 10:31:48 am »
I got a ticket in July 2023 for doing 25mph in the 20 zone about half a mile from my home on the A23 (I've lived here six years and the 20mhp zone (it was introduction in the last couple of years). I did the driver awareness course. 



I just got another (a mile further down the road for travelling at 25mph). I realised that (and I don't think this is any defence) Google maps, which I used to drive everywhere, directed that it was 30mph. It is odd that it's a 20mph because it's a wide busy two lane road with no schools etc. 



I need to reply to the NIP soon. Can I avoid points?



Thank you for any advice
« Last Edit: April 04, 2024, 02:40:50 pm by Donostio »

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Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2024, 10:53:37 am »
If the limit is lawfully in place, adequately signed and you were driving in excess of the limit, no, you cannot avoid points. The foregoing are all points you may wish to investigate. As you say, Google Maps leading you astray is no defence (see ‘adequately signed’).
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Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2024, 11:15:03 am »
Google maps, which I used to drive everywhere
If I did that I'd be walking within 6 months as it's far from reliable.
Watch out for signs and only use Google as a backup!
There are motorists who have been scammed and those who are yet to be scammed!
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Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2024, 12:25:19 pm »
Use Waze sat nav app instead its much more uptodate (despite google owning Waze)
Change the default setting in it to
1. Display speedometer
2. Display the speed limit at all times - rather than only when you are exceeding it
3. Warn at the exact limit (rather than some mph above the limit).
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Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2024, 12:35:53 pm »
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Use Waze sat nav app instead its much more uptodate (despite google owning Waze)
Change the default setting in it to
1. Display speedometer
2. Display the speed limit at all times - rather than only when you are exceeding it
3. Warn at the exact limit (rather than some mph above the limit).

And make sure you still look out of the window. The above is not reliable, especially for variable and temporary speed limits (and is not 100% reliable for fixed limits either).

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Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2024, 12:38:23 pm »
Thanks. I've used Waze off and on - it's better for forecasting journey length by time of day. It may be time to make the permanent leap. Indeed, with variable speed limits and changes one can't rely on any of the sat' nav's

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Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2024, 04:17:24 pm »
I really don't want to be that guy, but from the image you have posted there clearly is a large 20mph sign on the road.
I understand that its very easy to become reliant upon Sat Navs and such systems but they are no replacement for observational skills.

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Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2024, 04:40:19 pm »
I really don't want to be that guy

If you start your post like that, you’re 100% about to be ‘that guy’. Don’t do it round here.
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