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cyril

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Hi Guys,
Work Colleague of mine has received a motorway speeding fine and he was saying I did not see cameras, signs and when you driving the car sometimes you don't even realised you are reaching the speed of 80Mph and he thought you can between 70Mph to to 80Mph and he did not realised on this motorway he would break the speeding law.

Is there any chance here to appeal .

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Maybe better to get your colleague to post: already we are missing info. What does he mean by "received a fine"?

Nothing you have told us suggests a defence, and going to court and saying he didn't see the signs would not be a good start. The default limit on every motorway in the UK is 70, so there would have been no speed limit signs. And no camera signs are ever needed, anywhere.

He may be offered a speed awareness course: it sounds as if that would be useful.

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You're meant to obey the speed limit whether you see the camera or not and there is no requirements for camera's to be visible or any signs for them.

Enforcement in a 70 limit starts at 79 mph (which with rounding down means an actual reading of 79.00 to 79.99mph) which would be a speedo reading of 81mph plus based on normal accuracy levels.

To clarify 666's question, you receive a NIP not a fine, you then accept any offered out of court settlement (a course is sure to be offered here, if not a fixed penalty), only in court are you actually fined.
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Sorry his not received a fine as yet, only letter , so he needs to confirm the details and who was the Driver.

I Thought he may have missed the Speed Average camera or signs when there is usually there during the road work.

Yes he has received NIP and need to confirm driver details.

I think he will go for speed awareness course, if he does get this option to avoid points.

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I Thought he may have missed the Speed Average camera or signs when there is usually there during the road work.
80mph is faster than any speed limit that exists in the UK, so he should already know that regardless of any signage (or lack thereof) he is speeding if he is driving at 80mph.

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I Thought he may have missed the Speed Average camera or signs when there is usually there during the road work.
What makes him think there would be roadworks given that none are visible in the photos and the limit wasn't reduced (as it normally is in roadworks) from 70?  No he was just exceeding the speed limit.  Perhaps he doesn't realise the 'normal' 70mph National Speed limit is enforced?

Also those photos aren't from an average speed camera system.
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