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Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
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I was caught by a speeding camera on the two lanes highway connecting M11 to North Circular Road A406 - was driving 58 mph in a 50 zone.
It was 5:00 AM with clear visibility, no traffic and no person can cross this road on foot - it is an elevated two lanes one way elevated road.
It seems there is no danger in driving at this speed then, but the camera is operating 24/7 regardless of traffic and time.
Can this speeding ticket be challenged in court?

Thanks in adavnace
Niv Ben-Yehuda

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Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
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Not on the basis that you simply don’t agree with the limit, no.
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.

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Thanks - let me hear your advice anyway - thanks in advance.

Niv

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Our general advice would be to name yourself as the driver and then accept the offer of a speed awareness course or fixed penalty.

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I already have 6 points so accepting this will bring me to 9 - dangerous zone

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Have you completed a speed awareness course in the last 3 years?

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Our general advice would be to name yourself as the driver and then accept the offer of a speed awareness course or fixed penalty.
I already have 6 points so accepting this will bring me to 9 - dangerous zone

The naming of a driver is not optional regardless of how many points you have. Failure to do so will see you prosecuted for failure to furnish driver details which if convicted carries 6 points which will then see you potentially banned as a 'totter'. 

When was the conviction date for the other points?
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I already have 6 points so accepting this will bring me to 9 - dangerous zone



When was the conviction date for the other points?

When the OP mentions "dangerous zone", I think he's referring to the fact that if he ends up with 9 points, he would be in danger of totting in future. I don't think he's referring to a DD40, DD60 or DD80 endorsement. So surely it would be the offence dates that matter, not the conviction dates.

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I did name myself as the driver. I have no option for driving awareness. Just to accept penalty and points or challenge in court.
3 points will expire October next year so I will have 9 till then. If I get another 3 points I will lose my licence for 6 months

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I think that’s what is known as a “you problem”.
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.
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I did name myself as the driver. I have no option for driving awareness. Just to accept penalty and points or challenge in court.
3 points will expire October next year so I will have 9 till then. If I get another 3 points I will lose my licence for 6 months
Either accept the 3 points or take it to court and plead not guilty. However nothing you have said suggests any viable defence.

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Your description of the event gives me the impression that you believe the speed limits only apply when there are other vehicles or people about.

That may be the cause of the predicament you are now in and you may have to consider modifying that view if you reach nine points.

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Speed limits are usually there 24/7/365. Except in a few locations where there are schools, but none that I am aware of in London or on main roads with signed variable speed limits. The M11 link road isn't one of them. Be very careful if your driving takes you into a London borough that has 20 mph limits.
Bus driving since 1973. My advice, if you have a PSV licence, destroy it when you get to 65 or you'll be forever in demand.