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Re: Single justice procedure notice - did not receive intermediate letter
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2024, 10:39:35 am »
If you do just plead guilty (and word any mitigation carefully to avoid it being taken as a not guilty plea) the fine would typically be half a week's wages (max 1000) less 1/3rd for early guilty plea plus 90 costs (may have gone up a bit).

You will also  have a criminal conviction which you must declare if asked, all insurers seem to ask (for any form of insurance).
Plus the victim surcharge - 40% of fine.
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Re: Single justice procedure notice - did not receive intermediate letter
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2024, 03:13:26 pm »
If you do just plead guilty (and word any mitigation carefully to avoid it being taken as a not guilty plea) the fine would typically be half a week's wages (max 1000) less 1/3rd for early guilty plea plus victim surcharge (40%) plus 90 costs (may have gone up a bit).

You will also  have a criminal conviction which you must declare if asked, all insurers seem to ask (for any form of insurance).

Edit: forgot surcharge.

Damn... I work in healthcare. So all my enhanced DBS will show with a criminal conviction?

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Re: Single justice procedure notice - did not receive intermediate letter
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2024, 03:22:03 pm »
If you do just plead guilty (and word any mitigation carefully to avoid it being taken as a not guilty plea) the fine would typically be half a week's wages (max 1000) less 1/3rd for early guilty plea plus victim surcharge (40%) plus 90 costs (may have gone up a bit).

You will also  have a criminal conviction which you must declare if asked, all insurers seem to ask (for any form of insurance).

Edit: forgot surcharge.

Damn... I work in healthcare. So all my enhanced DBS will show with a criminal conviction?
Not necessarily. It would depend on whether the police thought it relevant to your role.

And would any employer really care about an insurance offence?

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Re: Single justice procedure notice - did not receive intermediate letter
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2024, 03:27:19 pm »
I've tried looking for the solicitors list on the forum but cannot find it. I'd be really grateful if someone could point me in the right direction for a solicitor.

I can't risk having a criminal conviction.

If it was merely a fine to pay I would have done so, as I was happy to pay the initial fine, since I made a mistake.  :'(

I don't think it's fair for the court to implement a conviction on my name since I never received the letter in the first place... but I guess that's for me to discuss with a solicitor now.

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Re: Single justice procedure notice - did not receive intermediate letter
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2024, 05:01:20 pm »
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I don't think it's fair for the court to implement a conviction on my name since I never received the letter in the first place...

If you are convicted (whether by way of a guilty plea or having been found guilty following a trial) you will have a criminal conviction recorded against you. The court has no discretion over this.

Have you asked your employer whether a conviction for this offence (which will become "spent" in 12 months) will have any effect?

In any case, from what you've said, I don't believe you are guilty of an offence under s144A:

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That’s when the MIB stepped in and sent me a letter saying I didn’t have insurance on ABC123D.
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Now, I’ve received the Single Justice Procedure Notice for not having insurance on the old plate, ABC123D,...

But you didn't need to insure a vehicle bearing the reg'n number ABC123D if, for no other reason, (presumably) there was no vehicle bearing that mark.

Section 144 says this: "For the purposes of this section a vehicle is covered by a policy of insurance if the policy of insurance is in force in relation to the use of the vehicle."

Well yours was covered by a policy of insurance because you had a policy which covered its use.

What you may be guilty of is some sort of offence under the legislation covering registration marks, but that's not what you have been charged with.

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Re: Single justice procedure notice - did not receive intermediate letter
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2024, 06:38:36 pm »
Damn... I work in healthcare. So all my enhanced DBS will show with a criminal conviction?

My partners indiscretions never showed on her enhanced DBS. She was in a sensitive healthcare role.

I rather imagine a reasonable number of your colleagues may have speeding convictions beyond the fixed penalty regime for example.