Just joined after much searching and need a little advice
August 23rd 2023 I received a NIP from Nottinghamshire police for 37 in a 30, next day I filled out the online forms and paid the £100 fine.
Yesterday I received an SJPN from Notts police stating I did not supply my license details to the regional fixed penalty office. Sadly the only paperwork I can find is the original NIP but not the page requesting me to send my details in the post separately.
I emailed the Notts safety Camera Partnership asking for clarification and they replied this morning:
Good morning
Thank you for your email and attachment.
I can confirm that payment of £100 was made on 05th September 2023. However, your Driving Licence does not seem to have been received at the Regional Fixed Penalty Office for the mandatory three penalty points to be endorsed. On page three of the Fixed Penalty, it explains where and how to surrender your Driving Licence details. A copy of the Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty is attached for your records.
The £100 was refunded to yourself on 14th December2023. For further information regarding the refund please contact the Regional Fixed Penalty Office by telephone on 01509 215715.
Regarding the Court paperwork you have received, unfortunately there is nothing further this office can do. If you have any further queries, please contact Nottingham Magistrates’ Court’s helpline by telephone on 0300 303 0656 or makeaplea.justice.gov.uk.
I hope this information is of some assistance to you.
Kind regards
I have till the 11th March to make my plea online to Notts Magistrates court
Does this mean I will now get a criminal record and presume a larger fine and points?
You should respond to the SJPN by pleading guilty. In the "Mitigation" section you should state that you provided your licence details as directed but they either did not arrive or were not actioned probably failed to read the conditions that came with the fixed penalty offer and did not submit your licence details. However, you could ask the court to consider fining you at the fixed penalty level. The court has the discretion to do this but probably won't agree because the reason the matter has gone to court is your fault.
Eh? The OP hasn't said they provided the details?
This reads as if the OP paid against the NIP not the conditional Offer? Does a NIP ask for licence details for endorsement?
Eh? The OP hasn't said they provided the details?
This reads as if the OP paid against the NIP not the conditional Offer? Does a NIP ask for licence details for endorsement?
As stated I can only find the original page to pay the NIP, being honest I don't remember sending any paper off but it concerns me that I don't remember that part of the paperwork.
You don’t “pay an NIP” though, you pay a conditional fixed penalty offer. So, did you receive one of those?
You don’t “pay an NIP” though, you pay a conditional fixed penalty offer. So, did you receive one of those?
I went online and paid the fine, supplied all the requested details, the bit obviously either I did not get or did not do as can't find is the paper section that goes separately to the Regional fixed penalty office which is why I have got the SJPN
Paid what fine though?
The normal process is that you name yourself as the driver and the police then send you a conditional fixed penalty offer. Is that what happened?
Some forces use a ‘combined’ form, which does allow you to pay upfront but I’m only aware of Avon & Somerset doing that.
Regardless, if you didn’t comply with the conditions you’ll end up in court, where you can ask to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level.
Sorry I'm not being very clear here
I got the NIP, on the front page it advises quickest way to do it is online, which I did, confirming I was driver etc, supplied DL number etc
then got offer in post and paid online
Eh? The OP hasn't said they provided the details?
Thanks for the correction. Senior moment. Post amended. But....
...confirming I was driver etc, supplied DL number etc
then got offer in post and paid online
Did you, or did you not submit your licence details
after you paid the £100?
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