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Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« on: November 18, 2023, 10:46:02 pm »
I am in the same position, caught speeding but hadn't updated the V5 and the previous owner was abroad until last month. I now need to respond to the NIP, but the original date of the offence was 28/05/23 and so I will leave it until December to reply.

Which option would be the most suitable to reply with to allow it to time out?? 1a Speed Awareness / 1b Fix Penalty / 1c Court Date?
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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2023, 11:31:31 pm »
1d Start your own thread rather than hijacking someone else's (now split so this is now moot).
1e Leave out half of the information needed to provide a meaningful response.
1f If it has already timed out by the time you reply, how does one option allow it to time out and another not?
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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2023, 12:58:19 pm »
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Which option would be the most suitable to reply with to allow it to time out?? 1a Speed Awareness / 1b Fix Penalty / 1c Court Date?

There is no time limit for the police to offer you a course or a fixed penalty.

What is the date on your "Section 172" request for driver's details?

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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2023, 07:34:00 pm »
Hi and apologies for the hijack...

The date on my NIP is 10/11/2023, date of alleged offence is 28/05/2023 -Is this the information you were asking for @NewJudge

The original NIP would have been sent to the previous owner who was abroad at the time.
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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2023, 07:59:05 pm »
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The date on my NIP is 10/11/2023, date of alleged offence is 28/05/2023 -Is this the information you were asking for @NewJudge

Yes thanks. Just check to make  sure your response is received as you can be prosecuted for failing to provide the driver's details up to June next year.
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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2023, 12:48:31 pm »
Is there a recommended option that I select on the response?

1a Speed Awareness
1b Fix Penalty
1c Court Date?

If I do then receive a COFP, can I then ignore that next letter or should I also respond to that and decline the offer?

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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2023, 01:49:56 pm »
No. None of them.
You are required to provide the driver's details.
You are not required to select a bullsh*t disposal for a timed out case (or even if it was not timed out).

This does not change based on the number of times you ask the same question.
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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2023, 09:17:58 am »
Thank you for clarifying, as previous responses to the same question didn't help.

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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2023, 10:26:03 am »
Sometimes we forget that most people don't instinctively recognise when the police are making it up as they go and when the instructions can be ignored.
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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2024, 04:54:27 pm »
Thanks for your previous advice,

Everything has gone as expected, I send off the information confirming my details, and I received a conditional offer of a speed awareness course in January which I ignored. And I have now received a COFP, dated 31/01 with 28 days to respond...

Is the right advice to stay the course and not respond as the offence is now over 6 months old? Did I read somewhere that it can be worthwhile to reply and decline the COFP with a covering letter explaining why I won't accept the offer?

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Re: Speed offence 5 months ago - split from hijacked thread
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2024, 05:50:04 pm »
It was too late for them to prosecute 5 weeks ago. Other than accepting the COFP, which would be spectacularly stupid, nothing you can do will change that.
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