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The vehicle in question was recorded as doing 39 mph in a 30 mph zone on 19/10/25. It is a lease vehicle, so the Derbyshire Constabulary contacted the registered keeper on 23/10/25. The registered keeper responded with the driver details on 29/10/25 by email. However, the leaseholder did not receive the NIP until 18/11/25. I was the driver and received the revised notice on 27/11/25.

The location was identified as only London Road Derby, but there is no other location information to pinpoint the camera that recorded this speed.

I have 2 questions:

1. The NIP was served correctly, but the constabulary took 20 days between 29/10 and 18/11 to serve the NIP on the leaseholder - is this a problem?
2. How can I obtain further location information on the camera that recorded this, as I do not recall any signage to notify me of the presence of a camera on this road (although it was a long road).

Many thanks, and kind regards,

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1. The NIP was served correctly, but the constabulary took 20 days between 29/10 and 18/11 to serve the NIP on the leaseholder - is this a problem?
Nope. The only NIP time limit is on the initial one that was sent to the RK.

2. How can I obtain further location information on the camera that recorded this, as I do not recall any signage to notify me of the presence of a camera on this road (although it was a long road).
Since no signage warning you of a possible presence of a speed camera is required, the exact location is of no concern (unless it was considered vague enough to be confusing).

Checking sources, there doesn't appear to be a fixed camera on London Road, but there are two known mobile sites. Does the NIP mention it being a "manned" camera?

You could always ask for any photographs "to help with identification of the driver". They often supply these and may help identify the camera type and location.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2025, 06:24:00 pm by FuzzyDuck »

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Thank you @FuzzyDuck. Looking through the evidence, the camera was a LTI 20.20 Ultralyte 1000 mobile speed camera, so it must be one of the mobile sites. Before I ask the constabulary for photos, would you have the 2 locations of both known mobile cameras?

Many thanks and kind regards
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Thank you @FuzzyDuck. Looking through the evidence, the camera was a LTI 20.20 Ultralyte 1000 mobile speed camera, so it must be one of the mobile sites. Before I ask the constabulary for photos, would you have the 2 locations of both known mobile cameras?

Many thanks and kind regards

Opposite Wickes and RTC Business Park are two reported locations but a mobile camera could, by definition, be virtually anywhere. .

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Thank you @baroudeur. I obtained the location from them - it looks like it was opposite the RTS business park on https://w3w.co/tracks.moss.motel.

Using a Google maps streetview search, I cannot see any 30 mph signs on the approach to this area, nor any speed camera warning signs, after the roundabout from Derby city itself.

The area is an industrial park area with no residential properties, and is an A-road (A5194) for what it's worth.

Does any of the above form a contestable reason to dispute this at all?

Is there any way I can verify the lack of signage (the Google streetview photos are between 1 and 3 years old)?

Many thanks and kind regards,
« Last Edit: December 04, 2025, 02:38:14 pm by AceKingPin »

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If it is a 30mph limit with a compliant system of street lighting, the only speed limit signs required are where the limit changes (or where there ceases to be a complaint system of street lighting. Conventional repeaters are not permitted, let alone required.

Unless the change of limit was not adequately signed on the route you took on that occasion (assuming that you came from a higher limit at some point in your journey), then no, the fact that you can't find any signs on GSV is not a defence.
I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

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Ok thanks everyone for their help. Looks like I'll proceed without contesting in that case.