Received what I'm sure is a NIP (google of the sender postcode shows it's from a specific Police agency ) but unsure whether to open envelope as it is addressed incorrectly.
Addressed to a company at No 19 but the actual address is 9.
Diligent postie ensured it was posted to the correct address
Not sure we have even been in that specific county within the last month.
Would best approach be to return to sender unopened and marked unknown at this address?
Before answering that question
1/ Is the company the registered keeper (has the V5c with their name and address on it)? If so check what that says
2/ If they are not the RK (lease vehicle for example) then have you checked with the RK that they have the correct address and that they provided that address.
If you are not the RK (as seems most likely for both reasons hinted at above), by all means return it as NKTA but it will provide no defence if/when they catch up with you.
Just checked
Should have realised when the V5C arrived a few months ago but address on V5C is incorrect too
Company is registered keeper but slight address anomaly
In which case it was sent to your last known address and it’s probably best not to play silly beggers and risk making it worse for the driver.
Also (I guess you’re already on it) get the address on the V5c corrected.
Received a Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty
Paid the fine online but then noticed an error on the paperwork
"If you wish to accept the Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, please read and follow the instructions on pages 2 and 3 of this document.
The penalty amount is fixed at £100 and your driving licence will be endorsed with 3 penalty points.
Please note that to accept the offer of fixed penalty you must be able to comply with ALL of the conditions set out on pages 4 and 5"
Page 1 - is the Conditional Offer
Page 2 - How to make a Fixed Penalty Payment
Page 3 - Submission of driving licence details
Page 4 - Terms & Conditions of the Conditional Offer
Page 5 does not exist
Is there anything that can be contested?
So it states I must be able to comply with ALL conditions on pages 4 and 5 but
If there are no conditions listed on p5 you cannot comply with them. Just make sure you comply with any that are listed.
Either that or choose to decline (or ignore) the offer due to these deficiencies.
Then the police will prosecute you in court.
Have you submitted your driving licence details?
Is this related to the NIP that was sent to the company at no. 19 instead of no. 9.
Is this related to the NIP that was sent to the company at no. 19 instead of no. 9.
That was 5 months ago, bit late to be accepting a CoFP now I would have thought...
Would the conditions be the conditions set out in law (s 75(8A) of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988)?
Have you submitted your driving licence details?
Is this related to the NIP that was sent to the company at no. 19 instead of no. 9.
Yes, same NIP
2 drivers were driving the vehicle between 2 locations on the day making 12 return trips.
Neither driver knew who was driving at the specific time of the offence.
After numerous letters to get this across, each time another "Requirement for Driver Information" was received.
Finally decided which driver would accept the offence, completed the 3rd RfDI form and added notes that it was not
an admission of offence but that we understood somebody had to be charged
Conditional Offer received and paid but then noticed that there was no page 5
So, seems we just have to accept the 2nd part and submit the form to accept the endorsement
The conditions of the offer as laid down in the legislation are that you must make the necessary payment and that you must fulfil the requirement to provide identity details. If you were made aware of those conditions it doesn't really matter how the pages are numbered. Were those conditions made clear to you?
So, seems we just have to accept the 2nd part and submit the form to accept the endorsement
You don't have to accept anything. It is an offer which you are free to refuse, ignore or fail to comply with. If you do any of those, as I suggested earlier, the police will prosecute you. If I were you I would get a shift on. Now that your threads have been merged I can see that the offence took place close on five months ago. If you don't complete the process asap the police will withdraw the offer and prosecute you anyway.
As an aside:
completed the 3rd RfDI form and added notes that it was not an admission of offence but that we understood somebody had to be charged
I'm surprised you were not charged with "Failing to provide driver's details."
Surely the police can't withdraw a CoFP and prosecute the OP within the 28 day period where court action is suspended?
No they can't.
But we don't know when the offer was made. The offence must have been before June 13h and we heard nothing between then and November 13th. The offence times out in early December and the police do no usually make an offer of a FP much more than four months from the date of he offence. It would be a reasonable guess that the offer was made well before the end of October.
The police cannot lawfully instigate proceedings for the speeding offence during the suspended enforcement period. A prosecution for the speeding offence would not be my obvious concern.