Author Topic: Going through a Red Light / Less than 1 second / Automatic Equipment / Met Prosecutions  (Read 495 times)

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jeff

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Alleged Offense: Fail to comply with Red Light Signals - Automatic Equipment

Time into Red: 0.9 Seconds

Location: A501 Euston Rd j/w Gordon St W/B NW1

Questions:
Is it reasonable to dispute less than 1 second?
Are there thresholds for certain districts?
Can automatic equipment error be a factor here?
Can this be defended?

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Is it reasonable to dispute less than 1 second?

What do you mean by dispute it? Do you mean dispute that the 0.9sec might be incorrect or that it should be allowed. If the second, then no.

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Are there thresholds for certain districts?

Possibly. That's up to the police. There is nothing published as there is with speeding

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Can automatic equipment error be a factor here?

Unlikely

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Can this be defended?

Yes. Whether a defence would be successful is a different matter.

Are you being prosecuted in court for this or don't you know yet?

jeff

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Thanks!

I mean - Is it worth challenging when its under 1 second? Maybe 0.9 seconds is within error of a district threshold? I have no knowledge on this.

This information is from a NIP. I am returning the Section 172 statement tomorrow.
I don't know if this will result in prosecution in court but I have received the NIP.

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Crossing the stop line after red is an offence. You should bear in mind that amber also means "stop" and that is displayed for around three seconds. The police have chosen to act against you. That's all there is to it. It  is entirely a matter for them to decide whether to take action or not.

It is unlikely you will be prosecuted. Although there are no published guidelines, 0.9 secs could possibly see a course offered. Failing that, a fixed penalty of £100 and 3 points.

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Understood, thanks.