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Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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Thank you for the response. I’ll have to see if I can amend the form then otherwise I’m scuppered.

Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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Thank you for the response. I’ll have to see if I can amend the form then otherwise I’m scuppered.

What exactly is this online form called?  It can't be a stat dec itself because you have to swear the SD in front of a commissioner for oaths.

It sounds to me like it's a form they are using to collect preliminary information prior to swearing the SD, but it doesn't sound to be suitable for your situation.  ie it's not just a simple case of dealing with the failure to identify conviction because you want the underlying speeding to be brought into the process so you can do the deal

Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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It’s an Options after a magistrates' court decision form and I’m giving a statement of truth. It’s what the call centre told me to do when I explained the situation and told me this would reopen the case and allow me to go to court to hopefully get the result under discussion.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2025, 08:58:55 pm by DWMB2 »

Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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I've removed the image you attached - you may wish not to share your full name, date of birth and National Insurance number on a public forum.

Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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I suggest you take that document down as it contains your name, DOB and NI number.

That form has nothing to do with a Stat Dec.

All the court needs to know is that you have been convicted of an offence via proceedings of which you had no knowledge and that you want to make a statutory declaration to have the conviction removed.

I can see there being  confusion with the term “original offence”. Once the SD is done the niceties of that can be sorted out and you can make your offer to plead guilty to the real “original offence” provided the FtP is dropped.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2025, 09:09:45 pm by NewJudge »

Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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Thank you for removing the personal details. Remiss of me. Ok so I’ll get this form cancelled and just fill in and submit an SD. Although I’m now outside the 21 days…

Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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Thank you for removing the personal details. Remiss of me. Ok so I’ll get this form cancelled and just fill in and submit an SD. Although I’m now outside the 21 days…

I'm still not sure what the purpose of the online form you've completed is and whether it commits you to anything at this point.

If you are now outside 21 days it might not be a good idea to cancel it.  Perhaps you should just sort out the "niceties" later when you come to swear it - as suggested by @NewJudge.

Wait and see what they think


Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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Thanks for the reply. I think I’ll ring STS tomorrow and see if I can sort this mess out!!

Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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Hi and thanks again for anyone reading.
I have spoken with STS this morning. So this web form they send is now apparently in lieu of the SD form. It has options for setting up fine payments as well as reopening other court proceedings. Option 5 is for completing an SD (or the equivalent) when you were unaware of proceedings. As I’m outside the 21 days to keep things moving, I’m leaving my plea as guilty to the original offence on the proviso the FTF is expunged (although probably not ideal. I’ll follow up with an email to them explaining my error but I don’t want to start again with a new form - I can’t amend the one submitted. It can be up to six months before I get a response from the courts apparently.. I’ll keep you updated.

Re: Further steps notice and statutory declaration help
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If a guilty plea is equivocal or condition, the court ought to reject it and substitute a not guilty plea - unless of course they accept the offer and do the deal.
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