Speed limit 30mph
Speed captured one way 49mph
Speed captured the other way 42mph
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I did not see the camera as it is on the telegraph pole before the buildings on the right (towards Longtown).
Yes, is there anything I can do to argue my case.
Yes, is there anything I can do to argue my case.
Give us a clue- what case do you think you have to argue? There is no requirement for a camera to be visible.
I'd note there are 30mph terminal signs on entering the area from both directions but there (if GSV is correct) are no repeaters and no system of streetlighting (which would make it a restricted road).
I'd note there are 30mph terminal signs on entering the area from both directions but there (if GSV is correct) are no repeaters and no system of streetlighting (which would make it a restricted road).
What do you mean by restricted road? As far as I'm aware there are no restrictions except the speed limit.
As a HGV driver that's slightly worrying that you do not know what a restricted road is… (a road that has a limit of 30mph because of a system of street lighting less than 200 yards apart unless there are signs to the contrary)
But this road is not one. So the terminal signs set the limit upon entry but there are no repeaters to maintain it. But there's no strict distance requirement for the frequency of repeaters. I haven't measured the distance between the gateways but I guess you may struggle to show the limit is not adequately signed.
As a HGV driver that's slightly worrying that you do not know what a restricted road is… (a road that has a limit of 30mph because of a system of street lighting less than 200 yards apart unless there are signs to the contrary)
But this road is not one. So the terminal signs set the limit upon entry but there are no repeaters to maintain it. But there's no strict distance requirement for the frequency of repeaters. I haven't measured the distance between the gateways but I guess you may struggle to show the limit is not adequately signed.
Unfortunately I can't know everything but thank you for explaining it.
Is 42mph within the limits allowed for a SAC or am I better off to just expect that I'm getting 6 points?
Hoping for the best outcome of 3pts and SAC (and a lesson learned).
Yes, one should qualify for a course.
This might give you a clue:
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I'm surprised that as an HGV driver you are not aware of what a restricted road is. Have you ever attended the driver CPC course that we have to do every five years? That is supposed to keep drivers updated on road traffic laws and other driving hints and tips. Plus, if you get more points, a visit to the local Traffic commissioner without tea and choccy biscuits may well be on the cards.
Having said that, I can't see any 30 repeater signs or a system of street lighting along that road. I suggest if you go that way agin have a look, that would probably be the only defence.
There are at least 4 street lights in the section of road concerned but on Google earth, it's hard to calculate the exact distance between them to see if they are compliant with the minimum legal spacing requirement for a restricted road without repeaters.
I have heard that some police forces do not offer courses for speeding when the vehicle involved is an HGV.
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