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Exceed a 40MPH by 21/06/25
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EDIT: As I have been asked for more information.
Please advice.
Here the notification of speeding.

https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME14S5BY
https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME14S5C0

All I have is what I said at the bottom of the post i put here for more easy reading:


Date : 21/06/2025 Time : 17:20
Site Name : A12 East Cross Route nr Palace Cl N/B E9 Direction N [12300770]
Site Location : London
Site Code : 2507
Site Offence No : 2507_1_272498
Lane Details : Head 1 Lane 1
VRM :
Violation Type : Speed
Speed : 47.4 mph
Frame Delay : 440 ms - Check Marks are 1 Meter apart.

sent this email to be heard by the court:

As I understand, I am waiting for summons from court. I sent this e-mail outlining the reasons why I want to be heard by a tribunal but this are not my full representation right?  or once they sent me the notification how do I show them the evidence I have?

Sent: 24 July 2025 18:18
To: CO16 Mailbox - Safety Camera Managers <SafetyCameraManagers@met.police.uk>
Subject: Ref: 0013033270259020

Dear Camera Processing Team,

I received correspondence regarding the Offence with reference above.

I would like to be heard by the court as I was going to dialysis and might have exceeded the speed limit by mistake because I was running late due to heavy traffic.

I also wrote to the address on top of the letter to request further evidence for my hearing.

Please send me the instructions I need to follow,

Yours sincerely,

My name

They replied with the certificates of the speeding camera and the details above.


« Last Edit: August 05, 2025, 08:51:31 pm by MMSuarez25 »

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Re: Exceed a 40MPH by 21/06/25
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Please advice.

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Re: Exceed a 40MPH by 21/06/25
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The information about the fine is at the bottom of the email.
I thought I provided all information to be honest.

I wrote to them and sent them the back of the first page of the letter. I only have two. when they replied they gave me that information and a picture.

Can you please help a nooby and tell me what other information you need?

Re: Exceed a 40MPH by 21/06/25
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I think you’ve messed up. Accepting a COFP would have been cheapest.

Speeding is an absolute offence so there is nothing you can say in mitigation that will help save for a life or death emergency situation.
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You could have taken a speed awareness course for that offence at the cost of about £100. If you didn't fancy that, a fixed penalty of £100 and 3 points was the alternative.

The next thing you will receive will be a "Single Justice Procedure Notice". The police have six months from the date of the offence to raise this and in many areas they take all of that time. This will ask you to enter a plea and give you the choice of having the matter heard without you attending or giving you the opportunity to have a personal hearing.

Assuming you enter a guilty plea you will see a fine of half a week's net income (reduced by a third for a guilty plea), a surcharge of 40% of that fine, around £90 prosecution costs and three points. I is unlikely the court will make any allowances for the circumstances you describe, whether you have evidence to prove it or not. But since you now seem committed to having a court hearing there is no harm in trying,

Your vehicle registration number is visible on the first page you posted.
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Re: Exceed a 40MPH by 21/06/25
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Speeding is an absolute offence so there is nothing you can say in mitigation that will help save for a life or death emergency situation.

Utter twaddle.

Speeding is a strict liability offence, not an absolute offence. This simply means that there is no requirement for mens rea (intent).

An absolute offence is one to which there is no defence - in other words the otherwise over-arching defences of duress and duress of circumstances do not apply. There are very few absolute offences. Murder is probably the most common example.

The defences of duress and duress of circumstances apply when it is necessary to otherwise break the law in order to avoid the risk of death or serious injury to yourself or another - so a life and death situation would generally not be mitigation, it would be a defence - unless the offence is an absolute offence, which speeding isn't.

That said, the "mitigation" put forward by most people is either pointless or pointlessly introducing aggravating factors.
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As NJ states, a speed awareness course was on offer here and technically there is still time to book and take one.

Where you are still within 28 days of the offer, it is possible that nothing has been done in relation to your email. While they state you can let them know, doing nothing would illicit the same response of issuing a SJPN c. 6 months down the line from the offence date. So it is not certain they will have read your email and taken any action as of this point.

Personally I would attempt to register for the course and if successful, send them another email telling them you have decided to take up their kind offer instead and save yourself some time & money.
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I went to check, and the course offer is already withdrawn. Seems like the emails work
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Re: Exceed a 40MPH by 21/06/25
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Then I would contact them and ask if you can withdraw your previous demand of your day in court. You are within the 28 days of the offer and while they have closed it as per your instruction, it would seem a bit tight to refuse to allow you to do the course after all. Or even pay the CoFP.

That is assuming you want to of course. 
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Re: Exceed a 40MPH by 21/06/25
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Yes, I already called and even though the case went to proceeding they were able to withdraw and allow me to do the course.
I was going to post and let you know, once I book the course to make sure all was ok. But i dont think it will be any problem. they told me to book the course straight away.

I just thought that I could get away with it because dialysis is a life saving treatment and that day I was very late because I went to the beach. lol
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Speeding is an absolute offence so there is nothing you can say in mitigation that will help save for a life or death emergency situation.

Utter twaddle.

Speeding is a strict liability offence, not an absolute offence. This simply means that there is no requirement for mens rea (intent).

An absolute offence is one to which there is no defence - in other words the otherwise over-arching defences of duress and duress of circumstances do not apply. There are very few absolute offences. Murder is probably the most common example.

The defences of duress and duress of circumstances apply when it is necessary to otherwise break the law in order to avoid the risk of death or serious injury to yourself or another - so a life and death situation would generally not be mitigation, it would be a defence - unless the offence is an absolute offence, which speeding isn't.

That said, the "mitigation" put forward by most people is either pointless or pointlessly introducing aggravating factors.

Thanks for the explanation , I got mixed up in my terms but this is what I was trying to say

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That said, the "mitigation" put forward by most people is either pointless or pointlessly introducing aggravating factors.


How true... and well put.

Re: Exceed a 40MPH by 21/06/25
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I just thought that I could get away with it because dialysis is a life saving treatment and that day I was very late because I went to the beach. lol

That is entirely on you. Think yourself lucky, and next time, plan enough time to get to your dialysis appointments on time... Those appointments cost money, and missing it could cost you a lot more than money.