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2 x COFP for speeding in 20mph limit
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Hi,
I got two NIPs around a month apart for exceeding a 20mph limit. I sent them back confirming I was the driver.
I now got a Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty for each, to pay £100 and 3 points.

I already have 3 points and done the course because I had a similar issue not so long ago where I had 2 alleged offences of exceeding 20mph, so I had the course and the other I had to accept the points.

One of the two that I have now is for driving 24mph, the other one I don't have anymore the NIP and I can't see what the speed was, but I know for sure it was also closer to 25 then to 30. This has been on all 4 occasions.

As I already have 3 points, and accepting the COFP for the current 2 will end me up with 9 points, I was wondering if there is anything I can do or ask for taking into account that the alleged speed.

Thanks for any help

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I was wondering if there is anything I can do or ask for taking into account that the alleged speed.
Nothing you can ask that will make a jot of difference, as you have no defence it seems. The only thing you can "do" is to be really, really careful going forward.

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...taking into account that the alleged speed.
Enforcement starts at 24mph - which is +10%+2mph.  Ultimately, it's in excess of the limit and a CoFP is the cheapest disposal method.

If you do tot then how the points were accumulated is not considered so you'll have to be very careful going forwards.

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If there was a defence available, it would depend very much on the facts - which are very much absent from your grasp at straws.

The best advice we can offer is to get a sat nav and enable audible warning for both exceeding speed limits and cameras. And understand that you still need to rely primarily on the Mk 1 eyeball - the tech is merely there to remind you - it has its own fallibilities which, unlike the Mk 1 eyeball, are outside of your control.

Cruise control and/or speed limiters can also reduce the chance of inadvertently drifting above the limit (or into the enforcement speeds), but again, these should only be considered to be secondary measures (cruise set at 30 can be problematic if the limit changes to 20).
I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

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I don't have the facts because only the NIP letter has a login to the evidence which by the time the COFP comes I can't log in anymore. I probably should've downloaded everything when I got the NIPs.

Thanks for the suggestions though with the 20mph limit there is a little window between driving too slow (not disturbing the traffic flow) and reaching the enforcement limit, so it becomes tricky.
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... with the 20mph limit there is a little window between driving too slow (not disturbing the traffic flow) and reaching the enforcement limit ...
The "traffic flow" shouldn't be going at more that 20mph anyway. Just don't be intimidated by others who want to go faster.
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Thanks for all advice. I accepted the offer
I am wondering if the magistrates could use compassion for the penalty points in the same way they can do for the fine dependable on the seriousness of the offence and the financial circumstances e.t.c. or is it always the fixed amount stipulated.
Regards,

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Against a guilty plea? No.