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Hello everyone,

I came across a post about a PCN similar to the one rhw registered keeper of a vehicle I know received and wanted to see what the latest advice is.

The registered keeper got a 'PENALTY NOTICE' in the post today stating APCOA as the Creditor. The alleged Offence was said to take place on 02 AUGUST 2024 with the Notice being issued on 28 OCTOBER 2024.

The driver indicated the signs at the Railway station were defaced on the day and there is no evidence of valid signs in the APCOA notice.

They are seeking enforcement through Railway Byelaw 14 and have indicated that the keeper is assumed to be the driver unless proven otherwise. This seems very strange to me...

Either way since Byelaw offences are summary offences they can only be tried in the Magistrates and hence there is a six month time limit to bring proceedings, I believe APCOA is now chasing close to the deadline to make sure they dont miss it. MSE forum seems to indicate a few people have now been prosecuted under Byelaw 14.

What should I do next? I should engage them under Pre Action Protocol per CPR to avoid further costs for sure?

What are the key points of defence?


« Last Edit: November 04, 2024, 09:56:51 pm by FaeLLe »

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Re: Woking Railway Station - Railway byelaw
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MSE forum seems to indicate a few people have now been prosecuted under Byelaw 14.
Can you share a link to any such cases? It would be the first time I'd ever seen APCOA take any sort of court action, civil or criminal.

Re: Woking Railway Station - Railway byelaw
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MSE forum seems to indicate a few people have now been prosecuted under Byelaw 14.
Can you share a link to any such cases? It would be the first time I'd ever seen APCOA take any sort of court action, civil or criminal.

Not sure if it was APCOA but this post said Railway Byelaw 14 protection took place (2014 post):
 
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4928095/railway-byelaw-14-ntk


Re: Woking Railway Station - Railway byelaw
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APCOA will not and cannot initiate a prosecution under railway bylaws. The thread from 2014 you referred to is about the actual "authority", the Train Operating Company (TOC), initiating a prosecution in the magistrates court. They are entitle to do so.

APCOA have issued what is, in effect, an "offered contract", that if you bribe them £100, they will not prosecute you. The fact that they can't prosecute you is because they have no authority to do so.

Under which authority is it stated in the Penalty Notice (PN) you received that APCOA are acting as an agent of? Any penalty paid under a bylaw, must go to the authority that is authorised ti enforce the byelaws, not APCOA's company bank account. If you want to dispute the penalty, ultimately, it must be disputed as a criminal matter in the magistrates court and the penalty still goes to the authority and any additional fine goes to the public purse.

In other words, it is a fake Penalty Notice. The only action you should take is to report them to Action Fraud.

Ignore any reminders and debt collector letters. After 6 month this will all be over as there is a statute of limitation on real bylaw penalties of 6 months. APCOA cannot and would never prosecute this in a magistrates court because they don't have the authority to do so and they would be exposed for the fraudsters they really are.

Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Woking Railway Station - Railway byelaw
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Hi @b789 I would appreciate some information on which legislation indicates that revenue obtained from 'railway byelaws' need to be collected by the Railway Operator ('RO') and not their agent such as APCOA.

I have been looking at some legal sources and cannot find any reference that indicates there is such an intent. This includes some authoritative texts such as,
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Halsbury's Laws of England > Railways and Tramways (Volume 86 (2023)) > 1. Railways(1) > Historical and Administrative Context > (iii) Railway Byelaws > 11. Provision for the making of byelaws under the Railways Act 2005.

I am hoping to get some references to the view which enforces that APCOA cannot bring legal proceedings on behalf of the rail operator.



Especially since historical caselaw demonstrates,
  • A and D below: A railway company is not a public authority in controlling vehicular activity at the station.
  • B below: Any legal actions against a railway company must differentiate where they are acting as a public body (not when they are performing a private function).
  • C below: Railway operators are permitted to use byelaws to maximise revenues and become financially independent (they could argue that if APCOA was not performing parking enforcement then it would place additional financial burden on the railway operator).
  • [E] below: Railway companies/operators giving contracts to a private company was merely ancillary to the provision of railway services and was not part of its body function and was not statutorily underpinned and contained no sufficient public law element to be amenable to judicial review.


Some relevant extracts from case law mentioned above:



A:

A railway company is not a public authority within the meaning of that term as used in the Public Authorities Protection Act 1893, s 1.
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Swain v Southern Railway Co [1939] 2 All ER 794


B:
Only actions directly linked to public duties are protected under the Public Authorities Protection Act, courts provide a clearer demarcation for plaintiffs seeking redress against public entities.

So actions covered under a private contractual obligation are not related to those acts performed by execution of a public duty or authority[/u]
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Bradford Corporation v. Myers (53 SLR 776)


C:
Railway operators are permitted to use byelaws to maximise revenue.[/u][/u][/u]
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Jones and another v First Greater Western Ltd - [2013] EWHC 1485 (Ch),
[2014] LLR 16, [2013] All ER (D) 166 (Aug)
- Charging to comply with terms at a site is justifiable if it has valid intentions, such as improving layout, alleviate congestion etc.
- Commercial opportunities can be exploited to raise revenue.

Quoting the case above:
[209] Moreover, I am of the view that FGW would have wished to introduce the scheme, even if none of the revenue derived therefrom, or merely a very minimal part of it, was used to improve facilities for taxi drivers and taxi users of BTM. It was the commercial opportunity which FGW felt it could and should exploit. Why should it not generate some income from those who traded from its premises, in the same way as it charged shopkeepers or store holders?

[397] The scheme introduced is, in my judgment, necessary and proportionate to the aim pursued. The Claimants are not being denied access to BTM. Tthey are being asked to sign up to terms and conditions of appropriate behaviour and asked to pay, currently, some £400 for the privilege of earning up to £24,500 on that land, on the Claimants' own calculations. The Defendant is not simply pocketing the money. The significant costs of implementing and policing the scheme and monitoring and policing the ranks were referred to in the evidence as, indeed, have been the intentions to improve the layout, the facilities and to alleviate the congestion, all ultimately, in my judgment, to the benefit of taxi drivers, as well as others.


D:
An operator of a railway station was not acting as a public authority in respect of the control of vehicular access to private land, notwithstanding that the land was the station approach.
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Jones v First Great Western Ltd [2013] EWHC 1485 (Ch), [2013] 4 WLUK 599


E:
Great Western Trains Co Ltd, giving the contract to do so to one particular company, was merely ancillary to the provision of railway services and was not part of its body function and was not statutorily underpinned and contained no sufficient public law element to be amenable to judicial review.

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R v Great Western Trains Co, Ltd, ex parte Frederick, (QBD, Popplewell J, 19 May 1997),
At para [53] Applying the factors and tests from those cases, any claim that the Defendant is carrying out a 'public function' when controlling access to its land at the station approach must fail. The Defendant is a private company limited by shares, and lessee of that land. Whatever arguments one might make about the running of trains and similar core functions of the railway industry being of a public nature, and therefore the Defendant being a 'hybrid' body with some 'public functions; (but cf the Railtrack case below), the control of vehicular access to private land consisting of a station approach is par excellence a private act and private aspect of the Defendant's operations.”
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Re: Woking Railway Station - Railway byelaw
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The first simple question you need to ask, if APCOA are issuing a "Penalty Notice", under which authority are they acting. APCOA are not an authority. They are an unregulated private parking company.

If they are acting as an agent of the landowner (the TOC or Network Rail for example) they why is there no mention in the PN on whose behalf they are operating?

Please see this letter from the DfT from 2018 when POPLA queried whether they could adjudicate on PNs:




The last sentence of the third paragraph is the one that should be noted. Apart from the misuse of terminology in the DfT letter where it conflates the word "penalty" with "ticket", the DfT obviously expects parking infringements that would be covered under Bylaws 14(1) to (3) should be dealt with as civil matters, not prosecuted under bylaw 24(1).

The distinction is that there is absolutely nothing to stop a private company contracted by the landowner to issue PCNs under civil contract law. No one is arguing about that. The issue is that APCOA (and SABA) are issuing what they purport to be Penalty Notices under bylaw 24(1) which can be prosecuted as criminal matters in the magistrates court.

By issuing what they call a Penalty Notice, they are using language that is totally inappropriate and unlawful for a civil matter.

If the Penalty Notice were not fake, any revenue from the penalty would go to the landowner. APCOA are suggesting that they could bring a private criminal prosecution in the magistrates court to recover the penalty. How can they do that without disclosing who the landowner is that has given them the authority to a) issue a penalty notice in the first place and b) not disclose that the penalty payment is going into their own bank account and not that of the landowner.

In civil law, remedies are compensatory rather than punitive. Civil charges, such as those related to parking breaches, are intended to compensate for losses or to enforce compliance with contractual terms, not to punish or penalise in the same way as criminal fines. The term “penalty” implies punishment, usually in response to a legal offence. This punishment-oriented terminology is inconsistent with civil law principles, where charges must be proportionate and cannot be punitive.

Using “civil penalty” blurs the line between civil and criminal enforcement. It suggests that private operators have the power to impose punitive fines, akin to those imposed by statutory bodies, which they do not. In contract law, “penalties” are generally unenforceable because they are considered punitive and disproportionate. A charge that is punitive rather than compensatory can be struck down in civil courts as an unlawful penalty. Private operators, under civil law, cannot impose penalties—they can only seek reasonable charges linked to actual loss or deterrence.

Instead of “civil penalty,” the DfT should have used terms like “parking charge” or “civil charge.” These terms more accurately describe the nature of the charge in civil law, clarifying that it is intended as a deterrent or compensation, not a punishment. “Parking Charge Notice” (PCN) is the established terminology in the parking industry for civil charges imposed by private operators, and it avoids the punitive implications associated with “penalty.”

By using the term “civil penalty,” the DfT inadvertently suggests that these charges carry a statutory or punitive weight that they do not legally have. This may lead the public to perceive these charges as quasi-criminal fines, which they are not. The DfT’s language has obviously been misinterpreted by APCOA/SABA as a license to impose punitive fines, when their legal authority only extends to civil enforcement within the bounds of proportionality.

The DfT’s use of “civil penalty” is, in effect, an oxymoron and a misuse of legal terminology. In civil law, the correct terms are “parking charge” or “civil charge,” which accurately describe a compensatory measure rather than a punitive penalty. This distinction should have been made to prevent confusion and ensure that parking operators, POPLA and the public understand that these charges are civil in nature, without the punitive or statutory implications associated with true “penalties.”

The DfT specifically state that the ability to render a charge under byelaw 14(4)(i) is distinct from the general enforcement power in byelaw 24(1), under which a person can be prosecuted in the Magistrates Courts. The only logical interpretation of that is infringements of Bylaw 14 should be dealt with as civil matters by way of a PCN and not a Penalty Notice.

Notwithstanding this, there was a case recently with APCOA where they had issued a "Penalty Notice" under railway bylaws and it went to POPLA. They were put to strict proof that they were permitted to issue Penalty Notices at the location. It came to light after reviewing the contract, even though heavily redacted, there was no authority for APCAO to issue Penalty Notices, only Parking Charge Notices.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Woking Railway Station - Railway byelaw
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Thanks for your detailed response, the arguments seem quite logical to me. Especially, the amount being claimed as a 'penalty'.

If ever this ends up in court, it will be interesting to see how APCOA intend to prove the case using this limited evidence, beyond resonable doubt (criminal standard of proof).
The case will most likely fail the first (no evidence that the crime has been commited) or at the very least second limb (evidence is tenuous or inconsistent in nature) of the The Galbraith Test and will result in a 'no case to answer' situation.

Re: Woking Railway Station - Railway byelaw
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If ever this ends up in court
I'd put money on it not doing - APCOA have never in my experience taken anyone to court. They don't even go to County Court, where they'd get to keep the money if they won, let alone Magistrates Court, where they would not.

Re: Woking Railway Station - Railway byelaw
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Byelaws ANPR tickets which are delivered to the keeper more than 14 days after the alleged breach, are considered by POPLA and BPA to have been incorrectly issued. This appears to be thd case here. Too late to appeal to POPLA. I would just ignore it.

Re: Woking Railway Station - Railway byelaw
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The Penalty Notice issued is not a real PN. It is a fake PN. It is not a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) either. POPLA have no jurisdiction to adjudicate on a PN even if were a real one. If it were a real PN, then if the recipient wanted to dispute it all the way as far as it could go, it would have to be in the Magistrates court under a criminal prosecution brought by the landowner authority such as the Train Operating Company (TOC).

The DfT has already pointed out back in 2018 that they expect breaches of bylaw 14 which relate to parking issues to be dealt with by means of a PCN and not a PN. A PCN is a contractual issue and is dealt with under civil contract law. The DfT has stated that they do not expect beaches of bylaw 14 to be prosecuted under bylaw 24 which is a criminal matter.

This is the exact quote from the DfT:

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The ability to render a charge under byelaw 14(4)(i) is distinct from the general enforcement power in byelaw 24(1), under which a person can be prosecuted in the Magistrates Courts.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain