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Warirngton75

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UKPC Warrington
« on: November 04, 2025, 05:56:14 pm »
Hi Guys,

The driver got this ticket and was with our disabled little fella at the time. Badge was either displayed on dash, but also sometime sticks it inside the side window right where little man sits before lifting him out of the seat and into his wheelchair. - No images of side windows in evidence.

I have however added an image of the dash as it looks to me that you can see the top of the badge where it's potentially slid down as image is awful and you cant tell at that angle whether or not it's visible properly.



Clearly we can appeal and send a copy of the badge but any advice would be appreciated

Ticket 19/10/25
Letter Dated 23/10/25
Last date of "discount" 16 days after service to allow for posting so 8/11/225 no?

If anyone could offer help I'd really appreciate it.

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Re: UKPC Warrington
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2025, 09:20:28 pm »
Whatever happens, as long as the advice given here is followed, you own't be paying a penny to UKPC.

There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. UKPC have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

Any initial appeal is always rejected, irrespective of the content. You will then receive a POPLA code and can appeal in greater detail. Even if unsuccessful at POPLA, you do not pay. Eventually a county court came would be issued and as long as it is defended (we provide the defence) it will eventually either be struck out or discontinued.
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Re: UKPC Warrington
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2025, 02:43:28 am »
I don't reply to PM questions about a thread. However, I will tell you that this would never get as far as a hearing in court. They would make a county court claim but if defended using the defence we provide, I can tell you with greater than 99.9% certainty, it would eventually be discontinued.

We are very familiar with UKPC and many other unregulated private parking companies that use DCB Legal to issue the claim for them that they will never go all the way to a hearing. They will discontinue just before they have to pay the £27 trial fee.

Their modus operandi is to try and intimidate the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to pay up out of ignorance and fear. I am not just saying this but speaking from many years of experience in dealing with these PCNs.

County court is nothing to be afraid of. It is not a criminal matter. It is a civil contractual matter. No robes or gowns or wigs.

You can do everything in your wife's name but you cannot do it "on behalf" of her. Everything is done on line and all documents are signed by just typing the full name of the defendant. If it were ever to get to the point that a hearing had to be attended, then yes, your wife would have to go to court but you could represent her as a lay representative. However, if that were to actually occur, I'd eat my hat first.

However, that is all a long way off, if at all.
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Re: UKPC Warrington
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2025, 05:09:18 pm »
Thanks so much. Loud and Clear. Appeal done.
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