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Hi everyone,

Would be grateful for any help and advice i can get here.

Currently have a money claim court form from UK parking control for parking in a car park after hours.

The car park in question is a retail park and the signs are not lit at night. There is a McDonalds on site and I bought a meal from them and parked up to eat it.

They are claiming for the ticket, interest and legal costs and court fees. The total is £262 68

I have not been told who owns the car park or shown a copy of the contract giving them permission to persue matters through to court.

The court papers also do not have my full address on them .... Is this a mistake?

Thanks for taking the time to read this
« Last Edit: April 06, 2025, 10:25:51 am by hypnotic63 »

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Please read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ and in particular post up the claim form you have received, remove personal details of course but leave all dates legible.

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Not had a chance to return and take any photos of the signs as it is not close to me.

Issue date was 2-4-25

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« Last Edit: April 06, 2025, 06:24:16 pm by hypnotic63 »

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What is the "Issue date" of the claim?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain


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With an issue date of 2nd April, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 22nd April to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 6th May to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of UK Parking Control Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

UK Parking Control Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Thank you for this. Will follow up and let you know what happens

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After getting an acknowledgement of my defence from HM Courts on 22/04/2025.

UK parking control state today ...

'Having reviewed the content of your defence, we write to inform you that our client intends to proceed with the claim.'

They have included their N180 directions questionnaire.

What is my next step please?
« Last Edit: May 20, 2025, 11:03:46 am by hypnotic63 »

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Just download a new N180 and fill it in with any dates you will be unavailable. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and <UKPC email> and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.

The case will be allocated to your local court, you will have a telephone mediation session at which you offer nothing, and in due course DCB Legal will withdraw from the case. It’s what they do, essentially to use the court system to intimidate people into payment but avoiding paying the court fee and cost of attendance for people who stay the course.
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Thank you for the quick reply.

How long do I have to fill out my N180 and send it in?

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You will get your own N180 from the court with dates, but then follow the instructions above to file online instead.

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An update ....

Had the telephone mediation session last week with less than 24hrs notice, no letter or email warning ... Just a text.

I offered nothing and the reply came back that DCB wished to continue.


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You now wait for the allocation to your local court. Come back when you receive the order with the trial date and the deadlines for submission of documents and the claimants deadline to pay the trial fee of £27.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Now have the "Notice of allocation to the small claims track"

It has been allocated to my local court in the middle of October.

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Check the date for the claimant to pay the trial fee and the deadline for submitting witness statement. Notmally, the trial fee is due around a month before the heating and the WS 14 days before. However, it can cary. Are there any other orders in your notice of allocation?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain