Author Topic: Smart Parking - Ticket from payment machine shows incorrect number plate  (Read 562 times)

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Car Park operated by Smart Parking using ANPR and ‘Pay & Walk’ machines installed onsite for payment.


The driver (not me) paid on arrival (via the onsite ‘Pay & Walk’ machine) for 2 hours parking (this is the minimum allowed payment) and stayed less than 30 minutes. The driver said that when they entered the number plate, via the touchscreen, it was correctly showing on screen as they keyed it in, but the ticket (that the machine printed out) shows a slightly different number plate, so it’s incorrect. The driver is familiar with how to use the payment machine at this car park as they have parked there and used it many times before without any problems. However, out of the 7 character number plate, the 2nd character (a letter) is missing completely and the 3rd character (a number) is showing as a letter instead.

[I’ve noticed that this is the corresponding letter to the same place (or next to, depending on the format) as the number commonly found on touchscreen keypads (meaning where ‘QWERTY’ etc. either directly corresponds to ‘123456’ etc. when switching between 123/ABC or where the numbers are directly above the letters, they are next to each other) so the letter E is printed on the ticket whereas it should be the number 3.]

The rest of the number plate is printed correctly on the ticket and the amount paid and the times are all correct. Will a PCN likely be issued? And if so, can it be successfully (quickly/easily) appealed?

Thank you

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If/when a Notice to Keeper (NtK) arrives, show it to us. Until then, there is nothing more that can be done about (not so) Smart Parking.

As for "quickly/easily" appealing it... you are having a laugh aren't you? It can be appealed as quickly as you like but you appear to be under the false assumption that (not so) Smart will care.

If you manage to explain the issue with a bit more clarity, they may, I repeat... may offer you a reduced charge of £20 for a major keying error, even though it was most likely a fault in their crappy payment machine.

The only guarantee I can give you, well 99.9% guarantee, is that if you follow the advice here, you won't be paying a penny to (not so) Smart although it will go all the way to a county court claim, which as long as it is defended, will eventually either be struck out or discontinued.

Come back if/when you receive the PCN and show it to us.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

I am neither the registered keeper nor the driver - I’m just trying to help someone who will not be able to cope with a protracted process (court claim, debt letters etc.), but I have helped them twice before with PCNs (both with different circumstances) by following the excellent advice of helpful people online, which led to both PCNs being completely cancelled after just sending a ‘quick/easy’ appeal to each of the two parking companies (took a couple of hours, followed by a letter confirming cancellation received a few days later in the post) - hence my hopeful optimism that there may have been a chance for this to be ‘quick/easy’ again this time!

Also, I’m sorry my explanation wasn’t very clear - I have a brain tumour, which causes my thoughts to become muddled, so I struggle with clear explanations. I appreciate that this means I’m really not the best person to be helping someone else with this, but I’m their only option, so if I don’t at least try then they will just pay.

Very sorry to hear about the tumour. Loathe as I am to say it, with a combination of the recipient being unable to deal with a potential court process, and you not being ideally placed to support them due to your own medical issues, you may wish to give consideration to trying to get them to offer the £20 major keying error price.

As b789 correctly notes, Smart can often be beaten, but doing so will involve multiple appeals and potentially dealing with a court claim.

Either way, if your friend receives a PCN, come here and we can provide you your options.

"Dealing with multiple appeals and a court claim" are not arduous when following the advice given here. At most they involve posting a question about the process and next steps and receiving the necessary advice on how to proceed, which invariably, involves a few minutes work, copying and pasting the recommended text into an email and send it.

Dealing with the letters that arrive, again, are not difficult to deal with. Any useless debt recovery letters can be safely ignored, shredded and used as hamster bedding for anyone cares. The only letters that must be responded to are any from HMCTS regarding a court claim. Even a Letter of Claim (LoC) from a bulk litigation company does not have to be responded to, although we do advise that they should be, and again, we provide the content of the email response.

As this is a (not so) Smart Parking PCN (assuming it is even issued), as long as the advice is followed and a few minutes of reading the advice and acting on it once every few months until this concludes, is not exactly an effort. It is all a matter of emotion and, if treated correctly, a great life learning experience and education on how to stand up for your rights.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

"Dealing with multiple appeals and a court claim" are not arduous when following the advice given here.
Quite, but it's important that recipients of advice are aware of all their options, the risks and benefits involved in all of them, and can make an informed decision on that basis.