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Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #15 on: »
thanks again for your input and advice everyone - it is very much appreciated. I will put together the letter of complaint and get that emailed to them

Could you just clarify for me - is there a reply I need to make in terms of the letter they have sent back to us asking us to disclose the driver details? or just ignore as they have formally rejected or accepted the appeal ?

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #16 on: »
Why on earth would you want to give them the drivers details when you are under no legal obligation to do so? The burden of proof is on them, not you.

If you want to respond to their request, simply respond with the following: “In response to your request, I refer you to the reply given in Arkell v Pressdram (1971)
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #17 on: »
As above, no need to respond to their request (other than via the complaint already advised) - once their 'hold' expires they'll then either accept or reject your appeal, and we go from there.

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #18 on: »
oh gosh no!  I wasn't meaning a reply to inform of the driver or any other details or any information- more so just to make sure I am not obliged to confirm receipt or something

thanks again - I have sent the complaint email along with a copy of their letter

I will update when I hear back from them

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #19 on: »
So just by way of an update - I have yet to receive any correspondence from Smart Parking in regards to the complaint sent to them. 

I have also not had any further correspondence since the letter they sent on 6th March request the drivers details.

What would you advise at this stage ?

Thanks in advance


A suggested wording for your complaint is below. It should be sent to complaints@smartparking.com. I would attach to this a copy of the correspondence you have shared with us today.

They will probably fob you off in their response, but the goal here is to ultimately escalate the complaint to the British Parking Association and the DVLA.

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Subject: Formal Complaint, PCN #[REFERENCE]

Dear Sirs,

For the avoidance of doubt, this is not an appeal against a parking charge (one has been submitted separately) but is instead a formal complaint regarding your handling of my case.

I am writing to make a formal complaint about your correspondence in respect of PCN #[REFERENCE], which amounts to a breach of the Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice (PPSSCoP) and, by virtue of this, your KADOE contract with the DVLA. 

Following receipt of your PCN, I appealed on behalf of the company as the registered keeper, pointing out that due to your failure to deliver a Notice to Keeper within the relevant period of 14 days as required by Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA), you are unable to recover the charge from us as the keeper. You responded with a letter dated [DATE], which is attached, falsely claiming that the notice was issued under PoFA. In the letter you claim:

"the PC was promptly issued within the 14 days required under POFA 2012"

As you will know, paragraph 9(4) of PoFA is clear that the notice must be given (that is, delivered), within 14 days, not merely issued within 14 days.

By falsely claiming otherwise, you are in breach of the PPSSCoP and the KADOE contract for the following reasons:

1. Breach of the PPSSCoP
Section 8.1.1 of the PPSSCoP states:

8.1.1 The parking operator must not serve a notice or include material on its website which in its design and/or language:
d) state the keeper is liable under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 where they cannot be held liable.

In the appeal, I explained that Smart Parking had failed to serve a notice compliant with the requirements of PoFA, having given the notice outside of the relevant period of 14 days. You then responded on [DATE] with the attached letter, claiming the ability to recover the charges from us under PoFA. This is a deliberate misrepresentation, and a breach of 8.1.1 of the PPSSCoP.

As per Annex H of the PPSSCoP, this constitutes at least a Level 1 sanction for non-conformance.

2. Breach of the KADOE Contract
Clause C1.1 of your KADOE Contract with DVLA states:

The Customer shall ensure that signage, terms and conditions of service for parking customers and correspondence with data subjects comply with the Law and with the requirements of the ATA’s Code of Practice or Conduct.

By knowingly and falsely claiming compliance with PoFA, you have failed to comply with the terms of your KADOE contract, bringing into question your suitability to have access to sensitive registered keeper data.

As a result of these serious failings you should:
  • Confirm that the parking charge has been cancelled and that no further action will be taken
  • Explain why your correspondence falsely claims the ability to recover charges under PoFA when you are, or ought to be, fully aware this is not true
  • Issue a formal apology

I expect a response to my complaint within 14 days. Following your response, I reserve the right to escalate this matter to the British Parking Association, and the DVLA.

Yours etc...

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #20 on: »
What date did you send the complaint?

(You probably already have, but double check your spam folder, parking company emails have a habit of ending up there)

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #21 on: »
Complaint email was sent to: complaints@smartparking.com on 7th March ......

yes have checked the spam/Junk folder too

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #22 on: »
They are obliged to at least acknowledge your formal complaint within 14 days as per the PPSCoP section 11.3. So, if they have not acknowledged by the close of business today, then you can remind  the of their obligation and you intend to follow up with a formal complaint to the DVLA and the BPA.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #23 on: »
ok thanks for the reply - I have sent an email outline their obligation and that they have failed to comply. I will update if and when I hear.

Thanks again for your time and advice

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #24 on: »
Hi Everyone,

I have not yet received a reply from Smart Parking in terms of an accept or reject to my appeal sent to them on 25th Feb - only the letter requesting us to provide the drivers details - to which we sent a formal complaint (again still no reply - emailed again yesterday 24th March following advice on this thread)

I calculate that today is day 28 and their email states : "We will endeavour to respond to your appeal within 28 days"

I have checked junk folders and there is no correspondence from them - the last one being the letter requesting drivers details on 6th March where they state:

" In the event that you fail to provide these details, we will use the provisions under POFA, 2012, and continue to pursue you the registered keeper, for the outstanding balance.

Meanwhile we have extended the current charge period until 24.03.2025 to allow sufficient time for this information to be received. "

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #25 on: »
You are not dealing with a company that has any customer service ethos.

Send the following to Smart:

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Subject: Formal Reminder – Appeal Decision Outstanding (PCN Reference: [Insert PCN Number])

Dear Smart Parking Ltd,

I write in relation to the above Parking Charge Notice and my appeal submitted on 25th February 2025. I note that your correspondence at the time indicated:

"We will endeavour to respond to your appeal within 28 days."

Today marks the 28th day since submission, and I have not received any substantive response to the appeal. The only correspondence received was a request for driver details dated 6th March 2025, to which a formal complaint was submitted separately. That complaint also remains unanswered, despite a further chaser email being sent on 24th March 2025.

For clarity, this reminder concerns your failure to issue a decision on the appeal itself. You are required to respond accordingly, irrespective of any ongoing complaint.

Unless and until you do so, the matter remains unresolved and I require written confirmation that the charge is on hold. If you proceed without addressing my appeal, I will treat that as a breach of both the BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) and the BPA’s requirements for fair and transparent operator conduct. I also reserve the right to escalate this failure to the BPA and DVLA.

Should this matter proceed to POPLA, please be advised that I will require you to produce a fully unredacted, contemporaneous contract or chain of authority flowing from the landowner, showing you have the right to issue PCNs in your own name at this specific site. I trust you are already aware of your evidential burden in this regard.

I expect a full response to this appeal without further delay.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Full Name]
[Your Postal Address]
[Vehicle Registration Number]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #26 on: »
thank you - I have sent this email this afternoon - will keep you update should they decide to reply

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #27 on: »
Morning,

So I have received the attached - declining our appeal .......
« Last Edit: March 26, 2025, 12:17:06 pm by ShropDistill30 »

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #28 on: »
I think that’s pretty much as we expected, and I think a simple appeal to POPLA spelling out the dates (as in the first reply to your original post above) should see this off. As I said, Smart are either stupid or, more likely, deceitful in order to get your money, but you can’t be liable. Smart still persists in its lie about complying with PoFA.

Re: Smart Parking Charge Advise for Appeal
« Reply #29 on: »
Below is an initial POPLA draft.

Separately, you should complain both to the DVLA and the BPA about their quite deliberate misrepresentation of PoFA. Although they have not responded to your complaint, they are past the deadline to do so, so you should escalate them to the relevant bodies. We can help with these complaints.

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POPLA Appeal
[COMPANY NAME] (Registered Keeper) (Appellant)
-Vs-
Smart Parking (Operator)
Vehicle Registration Mark:[VRM]
 POPLA Reference Code: [POPLA REFERENCE]
 Parking Charge Notice Number: [PCN REFERENCE]

Case Overview:
We, [COMPANY NAME], the registered keeper (“we”/“the Appellant”) of the above vehicle (VRM: _______), received a parking charge notice via post from Smart Parking (“the Operator”), which purported to be a Notice to Keeper. We appealed to the Operator, who acknowledged and subsequently rejected our appeal. It is our position that as the registered keeper of the vehicle we have no liability for the parking charge, and that our appeal should therefore be upheld. Our appeal is on the following grounds:

1. No keeper liability: the Parking Charge Notice does not comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act (“PoFA”/“the Act”):
The operator does not not know the identity of the driver and is therefore seeking to recover the charge from us, the registered keeper of the vehicle. As a body corporate, we are clearly not the driver. In order to be able to recover any unpaid charges from us as the registered keeper, the operator must comply with the requirements outlined in Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Smart Parking have failed to do so.

They have failed to deliver the notice to keeper within the relevant period of 14 days beginning with the day after that on which the specified period of parking ended, as specified by 9(5) of the Act.

Date of Parking: 06/02/2025
Date of PCN issue: 19/02/2025
Date of presumed service (2 working days after issue, as per 9(6) of the Act): 21/02/2025
Elapsed time period: 15 days

As Smart Parking are unable to rely on the provisions of PoFA to hold us liable as the keeper, and as there is no evidence as to who was driving, we cannot be held liable for the charge, and our appeal should be upheld.

2. Breach of the PPSSCoP - Misrepresentation

The parking charge notice issued by Smart Parking claimed that they would be able to hold us liable as the registered keeper, under the provisions of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act, despite the fact they were aware (or ought to have been aware) that they had not complied with the relevant conditions to do so. Following our appeal pointing this out, Smart Parking doubled down on their stance, claiming that the charge was 'issued within the 14 days required under POFA 2012', despite the fact that PoFA requires the notice to be given (that is, delivered) within 14 days, not merely issued within 14 days.

This repeated misrepresentation is in direct contravention of section 8.1.1 (d) of the Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice, which states:

8.1.1 The parking operator must not serve a notice or include material on its website which in its design and/or language:
a) implies or would cause the recipient to infer statutory authority where none
exists;
b) deliberately resembles a public authority civil enforcement penalty charge
notice;
c) uses prohibited terminology as set out in Annex E; or
d) state the keeper is liable under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 where they cannot be held liable.

For the reasons outlined above, it is clear that as the registered keeper we have no liability for this charge, and we request that our appeal is upheld.