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Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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I would greatly appreciate some advice on this claim from Smart Parking dating back some 19 months.

Smart Parking issued a PCN to the registered keeper on the 10/04/2024 some 17 days after the alleged offence (24/03/2025). I responded to the original notice stating that under the PoFA (2012), as there was no ticket issued on site, the notice fell outside of the 14 day period required to comply. They rejected this and have been pursuing me ever since.

Sadly, the usual letters chasing the charge have been lost, but I have the original notice. I have not responded to any of the subsequent correspondence and have ignored the letters.

I have just received claim from HM Courts and tribunals notifying me of a claim against me from DCB Legal Ltd. It arrived 6 days from date of issue (05/12/2025) so am now short on time to respond.

The case is complex because the dates and times of the alleged offence are not in dispute, but the establishment of the 'contract' between the driver and the rugby club are ambiguous and contradictory. We were invited guests of Exmouth Rugby Club and were touring the region with various age groups (some 50 or so parents and children). Exmouth RFC established their ANPR managed parking system in the February and we visited in the March. We began organising the tour long before (September of 23) and during our initial communications, nothing about parking was mentioned. Closer to the date we had further communication from Exmouth RFC, but the advice differed depending on age group and was obscure. Some were told as visitors We were entitled to register and park for free (a tablet system was available if you knew about it). Some were told to pay on the Ringo app and other age groups didn't receive communication of any sort.

Some 30 or so of our members were issued parking charge notices that day. I wrote and spoke to my contemporary (Exmouth RFC  Junior Chairman) in my position as Junior Chairman of our rugby club and asked him (as the land owners) to cancel the charges due to the confused communication and inadequate signage.

He asked me to send a list of registration numbers and promised to 'look into it'. I sent the numbers but nothing further was heard and subsequent attempts to contact failed.

I would greatly appreciate any advice from this forum as have just a few days to acknowledge the claim. I am keen to defend my position in any way possible as feel strongly we have not had a clear and binding contract with Exmouth RFC who will ultimately profit from this action.

Kind regards.

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Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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Please post the notice and anything else per https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ and https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/posting-images/#new

Search the forum for DCB Legal, they are well known, and will pursue you until they have to pay the court fee, when they will discontinue. You will get advice here.

Exmouth RFC will not profit from this. Smart will be contracted to pursue and keep money collected by people who break their rules. However I’m sure you’re right to initially pursue Exmouth RFC (the organ grinder) rather than Smart to get this fixed.

You won’t end up paying anything but will have to expend time and effort.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2025, 04:06:58 pm by jfollows »

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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Thank you so much for your help so far. Please find the image links (name/address redacted) including the original PCN.

https://ibb.co/bgcJvdRZ
https://ibb.co/n856KQYr
https://ibb.co/ZRPhGKWy
https://ibb.co/Y6c2pD6
https://ibb.co/zMgbYy8
https://ibb.co/bRbyF8mV

I have a government gateway account so am hoping to deal with this online, otherwise the postal reply will need to be sent soon as took 6 days to get to me. Can I files the acknowledgement of service to buy more time?

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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Just tell me the date of issue of the Claim. Stop overthinking this and if you follow the advice you receive here you will not be paying a penny to (not so) Smart Parking or anyone.

You clearly had no idea what you're talking about when you appealed with waffle about if there was not Notice to Driver (NtD) and 14 days rubbish. There is absolutely no legal requirement to issue a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) as a windscreen NtD. The fact that you received a postal Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not simply PoFA compliant if is issued with time for it to be "given" within 14 days of the alleged contravention. I could go on, but you gave the game away when you responded with a statement that is not factual.

You are where you are now. All you need to know is that if you do follow the advice and confirm the date of issue of the N1SDT Claim, I will give you the advice you need to defend this and that it will, 99.9% guaranteed, end up being struck out or discontinued.

So, date of issue of the claim?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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With an issue date of 5th December, you have until 4pm on Wednesday 24th December to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Wednesday 7thth January to submit your defence.

You only need to submit an AoS if you need extra time to prepare your defence. If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Until very recently, we never advised using the MCOL to submit a defence. However, due to recent systemic failures within the CNBC, we feel that it is safer to now submit a short defence using MCOL as it is instantly submitted and entered into the "system". Whilst it will deny the use of some formatting or inclusion of transcripts etc. these can always be included with the Witness Statement (WS) later, if it ever progresses that far.

You will need to copy and paste it into the defence text box on MCOL. It has been checked to make sure that it will fit into the 122 lines limit.

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1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with PD 16, para 7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts);

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out materially similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the Particulars of Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity.

5. In comparable cases involving modest sums, judges have found that requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim due to the Claimant’s failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, rather than permitting an amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following Order be made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars of claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because: (a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract which is (or are) relied on; and (b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have done pursuant to PD 7C, para 5.2, but chose not to do so.

AND upon the Court determining, having regard to the overriding objective (CPR 1.1), that it would be disproportionate to direct further pleadings or to allot any further share of the Court’s resources to this claim (for example by ordering further particulars of claim and a further defence, with consequent case management).

ORDER:

1. The claim is struck out.

2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at this Court not more than 7 days after service of this order, failing which no such application may be made.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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Many many thanks for this. I have submitted the defence and will wait to hear.

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Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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DCB Legal tried to contact me by phone today (07/01/2026) but I declined the call. I am not sure if I should talk to DCB Legal, from reading the forum previously, it appeared to recommend not speaking to them.

Should I speak with them regarding this case?

Many thanks if you can advise. Kind regards.

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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You should never speak to them, all correspondence should be in writing.
Their modus operandi is to offer a “settlement” which means you pay them something. As was advised earlier, if you stay the course they will discontinue and you will pay nothing.
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You are where you are now. All you need to know is that if you do follow the advice and confirm the date of issue of the N1SDT Claim, I will give you the advice you need to defend this and that it will, 99.9% guaranteed, end up being struck out or discontinued.

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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And so it goes on...I received this (via email only) yesterday. It has an N180 'Directions Questionnaire' attachment pre-filled out by DCB. I am under the impression that I should only respond to written correspondence and requests, does this constitute written as via email? Should I respond or ignore.

Many thanks again for all the help and advice.

Good Morning

Having reviewed the content of your defence, we write to inform you that our client intends to proceed with the claim.

In due course, the Court will direct both parties to each file a directions questionnaire. In preparation for that, please find attached a copy of the Claimant's, which we confirm has been filed with the Court.

Without Prejudice to the above, in order to assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our client may be prepared to settle this case - in the event you wish to discuss settlement, please call us on 0203 434 0433 within 7 days and make immediate reference to this correspondence.

If you have provided an email address within your Defence, we intend to use it for service of documents (usually in PDF format) hereon in pursuant to PD 6A (4.1)(2)(c). Please advise whether there are any limitations to this (for example, the format in which documents are to be sent and the maximum size of attachments that may be received). Unless you advise otherwise, we will assume not.

 

Kind Regards,

Litigation Support

DCB Legal Ltd

 

Tel: 0203 838 7038 | DX 23457 Runcorn

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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Good day to you.

I have now received a 'Notice of Proposed Allocation to the Small Claims Track' in the Civil National Business Centre.
Attached is the form N180 Directions Questionnaire. The document is blank and is (I assume) for me to respond too with my defence.

The email DCB Legal sent to me some weeks ago had their N180 attached, but it has no details as such. Just ticking boxes and email address. They have also specified it is suitable for 'Determination without hearing'.

Could you advise me on my next steps please?

There was one other mitigating fact I haven't shared regarding this case. On the day in question, around 35 tickets were issued to our group, all of which had no idea of the car park should be paid for (or as invited guests, we should have been notified of the free parking system which applied to our group). The sheer numbers does indicate the signage telling the car park users was lacking in clarity and prominence.

I greatly appreciate your help and advice and hope you can direct me what to do next.

Many thanks. Paul



Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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The common advice given here is
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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and (email of solicitor) and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.

You have already submitted your defence. The purpose of the N180, inter alia, is to get the case allocated in person to your local court.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2026, 06:10:20 pm by jfollows »

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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As this case continues, it appears that Smart Parking ltd intend to pursue me.

I have been sent a telephone mediation appointment for April, for which I need to prepare my defence. To recap, my defence is as follows:

1.
I was part of a large party of invited guests visiting the landlord (Exmouth RFC). On the day of our visit, around 25 vehicles received parking fines.
Exmouth RFC did not pass on the parking arrangements intended for invited guests (namely that there is a registration system accessible by tablet to allow for free parking).
In the initial phases of organising the visit, the landlord did not communicate to us any information regarding parking. Our touring party subsequently discovered that the parking system was in planning and implementation stage and many of the volunteers at Exmouth were unaware of the plans.  when we arranged the visit first instance not passed information onto us regarding the changes to their parking arrangements.
2. The signage was completely inadequate. Indeed, at the time (March 2024) just a few weeks after the implementation of the system, there was no signage in the car park itself. 25 separate fines on the day stand testament to the fact.
3. In my capacity of Junior Chairman of Thornbury RFC  (the touring party) I contacted my contemporary at Exmouth RFC (Lawrence Giles) and he said he would send the list of impacted registration numbers to him to forward onto Smart Parking Ltd. As a representative of the landlord he was apologetic and he was not sure of what he could do, but believed at the time he could get Smart Parking to stop pursuing the people on the list. Some weeks later as it became clear Smart Parking were continuing their action, I attempted to make contact again but my attempts went unanswered this time.


I would greatly appreciate how this should be worded and/or structured for legal purposes (assuming the mediator will be making a judgement based on the case I put forward).

I am (as ever) eternally grateful for your input. Kind regards.

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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You do not need to discuss your defence during the mediation session.

You offer £0 to settle and that will be the end of it.

Search the forum for “mediation” to read up on many similar cases.

If the mediator tries to bring your defence into the discussion you should report them for exceeding their role, capabilities and abilities. They are not legally trained or competent.

Smart are former clampers, and DCB Legal are 99% certain to discontinue if you follow the advice here. Again, search the forum.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2026, 04:49:48 pm by jfollows »

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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Thank you for this, I appreciate it and have read the forum regarding mediation. However, in the details of mediation form attached to my email it states in point 2 the following regarding defence:

My assumption is here that once I declare that I am not prepared to negotiate and that the offer is £0 the call ends?

1- Introduction from the mediator

The mediator will introduce themselves and check that you have read and understood the mediation process.

2- Explaining your position

You will need to briefly explain your claim or defence to the mediator. You should prepare for yourself a brief summary of the main points.

3- Negotiating options

You’re attending mediation with a view to settling your case. This means negotiating to overcome disputed issues. The mediator is neutral and helps each party to explore options and discuss risks. Mediation works when you’re willing to listen to what the other party has to say, negotiate, and agree a settlement.

4- Building agreement

Settlement can be in many different forms, for example, payment, goods, or work. Both parties must agree on the outcome and feel they have reached an acceptable resolution.

5- Reaching a settlement

The mediator will read the terms of the settlement and confirm agreement with each party. Once agreed, the settlement is legally binding and cannot be changed. A copy of the mediation settlement is sent to both parties and placed on the court file.

6- Confidentiality

All mediation appointments are confidential. An agreed settlement includes a standard confidentiality clause.

· Ending the mediation process

The mediator can end the mediation if, at any time:

· either party breaches the terms on which they agreed to mediation

· there is no prospect that the mediation will end in settlement.

· the mediator deems it inappropriate to continue in the case that one or both parties are vulnerable users.

· either party asks to end mediation Find out more about Small Claims Mediation by watching our video HERE. Find out more in the guide to the Small Claims Mediation Service on GOV.UK

Re: Smart Parking - Exmouth Rugby Club - 24-03-2024
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My assumption is here that once I declare that I am not prepared to negotiate and that the offer is £0 the call ends?
You're not saying that you are not prepared to negotiate. You are perfectly willing to settle - your settlement offer is £0, in return for Smart Parking agreeing to discontinue the case with both parties covering their own costs.