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So I got a parking ticket in 2021 for allegedly overstaying the max period in a Sainsbury's car park. I've now received the claim form and the legal representative is DCB Legal.

The PoC is as follows:

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1. The Defendant (D) is indebted to the Claimant (C) for a Parking Charge(s) (PC) issued to vehicle XXXXX at Lombardy Retail Park (1) Hayes.
 2. The date of contravention is 02/05/2021 and the D was issued with PC(s) by the Claimant
 3. The Defendant is pursued as the driver of the vehicle for breach of the terms on the signs (the contract). Reason: Your Vehicle Was Parked Longer Than The Maximum Period Allowed
 4. In the alternative the Defendant is pursued as the keeper pursuant to POFA 2012, Schedule 4.

AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS
 1. £170 being the total of the PC(s) and damages.
 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of £.04 until judgment or sooner payment.
 3. Costs and court fees

As it was so long ago, I don't remember the exact details (e.g. entry/exit times) but the driver would have entered the car park in order to shop at the supermarket and then somehow overstayed. I highly doubt the driver used the car park to just leave their vehicle for a prolonged period. I am the keeper of the car.

What grounds for appeal do I have?

Claim form below:

https://ibb.co/TB8571yR

Google Street View link:

https://tinyurl.com/ymf677dj
« Last Edit: April 21, 2025, 04:57:11 pm by bz.08 »

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We could do with seeing the actual claim form with personal details redacted, in particular so that we can see the relevant claim dates etc.


What grounds for appeal do I have?


Defence, not appeal.

Laches?
(Dependant on the relevant facts).
« Last Edit: April 21, 2025, 05:58:54 pm by Charitynjw »
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What grounds for appeal do I have?


Defence, not appeal.

Laches?
(Dependant on the relevant facts).

Sorry - I stand corrected.

I had to Google what "Laches" meant but yes it has been very long (almost 4 years!).

It's unlikely to be a strong defence on its own - whilst there's no good reason for them taking as long as they have, they do ultimately have 6 years to bring a claim. That said, there's a very good chance we can get this struck out on other grounds.

With an issue date of 16th April, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 6th May to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 19th May to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Euro Car Parks Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Euro Car Parks Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
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With an issue date of 16th April, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 6th May to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 19th May to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

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Beyond buying more time, is there any real benefit to filing an AoS rather than just going straight to filing a defence?

Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain