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Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #75 on: »
Do you have a notice of discontinuation?

Is this something they should I can expect them to send me in the post?

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #76 on: »
If they did not copy you in to the N279 Notice of Discontinuation, you can claim costs for their unreasonable behaviour.

If they did, please show us the NoD.

Pretty sure that's a no, unless they will now send it through the post?
I'd love to claim costs of this nasty firm. How would I do it?

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #77 on: »
On what date did they notify the court that they were discontinuing? If the court only received notice yesterday, for example, then your copy could still be on the way.

If they didn't send you a copy, you would need to write to the court and tell than about their failure and to request that a procedural judge order them to pay your costs for their unreasonable behaviour because of their abuse of process.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #78 on: »
On what date did they notify the court that they were discontinuing? If the court only received notice yesterday, for example, then your copy could still be on the way.

If they didn't send you a copy, you would need to write to the court and tell than about their failure and to request that a procedural judge order them to pay your costs for their unreasonable behaviour because of their abuse of process.

Okay so the court replied.

"Dear Sir/Madam,

The claimant notified the Court on 11 February 2025"

And I never received anything from them. What would you advise?

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #79 on: »
Send the following to the court manager:

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[Defendant’s Name] 
[Defendant’s Address] 
[City, Postcode] 
[Email Address] (if applicable) 
[Date] 

The Court Manager 
[Name of the Court] 
[Court Address] 

Re: Case No. [Claim Number] – Request for Costs Consideration under CPR 27.14(2)(g) 

Dear Sir/Madam, 

I write in relation to the above-referenced case, which I was defending. I have recently become aware that the claimant discontinued the claim on 11th February 2025, but they failed to notify me of this. I only discovered that the claim had been discontinued after contacting the court on 5th March 2025

It is my submission that the claimant’s failure to inform me of the discontinuance constitutes unreasonable behaviour under CPR 27.14(2)(g), as it caused unnecessary time, stress, and effort in continuing to deal with the matter. Had I not proactively contacted the court, I would have remained unaware of the discontinuance. 

In light of this, I respectfully request that the court considers awarding costs against the claimant. A breakdown of my costs is as follows: 

Description: Time spent dealing with the case after discontinuance (research, drafting letters, contacting the court) 
Hours:
Rate: £19 per hour 
Total: £XX.XX 

Description: Printing and postage costs 
Total: £XX.XX 

Description: Other reasonable costs (if applicable) 
Total: £XX.XX 

Total Costs Sought: £XX.XX

Given the claimant's unreasonable conduct in failing to notify me, I request that the court considers making an order for my costs on the papers. I would be grateful if the court could confirm whether this matter can be considered administratively or if further steps are required. 

Yours faithfully, 

[Defendant’s Name] 
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #80 on: »
Thank you very much for this.

I'll fire this off in the afternoon.

What would you say is a reasonable against the 3 points and would any of them need to be proved with evidence?

Description: Time spent dealing with the case after discontinuance (research, drafting letters, contacting the court)
Hours: X
Rate: £19 per hour
Total: £XX.XX

Description: Printing and postage costs
Total: £XX.XX

Description: Other reasonable costs (if applicable)
Total: £XX.XX

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Thinking about just how much they take off people for so little yet most of us never considered the time and stress their claims put us through to then let them off charge free.

Thank you so much :)

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #81 on: »
I suggest it’s not about what’s reasonable, it’s about costs and time you actually incurred, and only you know that!
Evidence is your word, nothing more, for something you feel you can justify.
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Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #82 on: »
I suggest it’s not about what’s reasonable, it’s about costs and time you actually incurred, and only you know that!
Evidence is your word, nothing more, for something you feel you can justify.

I wish I kept a record of the time I spent. Plus, b789 very very kindly provided the information and letters that hands down, guided the success of the claim.

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #83 on: »
Send the following to the court manager:

Quote
[Defendant’s Name] 
[Defendant’s Address] 
[City, Postcode] 
[Email Address] (if applicable) 
[Date] 

The Court Manager 
[Name of the Court] 
[Court Address] 

Re: Case No. [Claim Number] – Request for Costs Consideration under CPR 27.14(2)(g) 

Dear Sir/Madam, 

I write in relation to the above-referenced case, which I was defending. I have recently become aware that the claimant discontinued the claim on 11th February 2025, but they failed to notify me of this. I only discovered that the claim had been discontinued after contacting the court on 5th March 2025

It is my submission that the claimant’s failure to inform me of the discontinuance constitutes unreasonable behaviour under CPR 27.14(2)(g), as it caused unnecessary time, stress, and effort in continuing to deal with the matter. Had I not proactively contacted the court, I would have remained unaware of the discontinuance. 

In light of this, I respectfully request that the court considers awarding costs against the claimant. A breakdown of my costs is as follows: 

Description: Time spent dealing with the case after discontinuance (research, drafting letters, contacting the court) 
Hours:
Rate: £19 per hour 
Total: £XX.XX 

Description: Printing and postage costs 
Total: £XX.XX 

Description: Other reasonable costs (if applicable) 
Total: £XX.XX 

Total Costs Sought: £XX.XX

Given the claimant's unreasonable conduct in failing to notify me, I request that the court considers making an order for my costs on the papers. I would be grateful if the court could confirm whether this matter can be considered administratively or if further steps are required. 

Yours faithfully, 

[Defendant’s Name] 

Hi,

I don't have any printing or posting costs because everything was done by email and the overwhelming bulk of my defense came from your wisdom, which would take the inexperienced an extremely long time to learn. Not to mention the time spent writing the letters you very kindly shared with me. Do you think I should exclude trying to put a value on your contribution (which would be an immense amount of time) and restrict it to just the time I spent personally? Or, should I  include an estimated nominal amount of time that an expert might have spent providing the assistance as you did? Like for like, your time would be much much higher than £19 per hour.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2025, 08:51:09 am by DontStandForNonsense »

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #84 on: »
Just put what you actually spent. Do not lie to the court. You can claim for your own time only. If you didn’t spend anything on printing, postage etc. then you can’t claim for it.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #85 on: »
Just put what you actually spent. Do not lie to the court. You can claim for your own time only. If you didn’t spend anything on printing, postage etc. then you can’t claim for it.

Understood.

Question though, how come only the time spent 'after' discontinuation is allowed to be claimed for?

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #86 on: »
Costs are generally very limited in the Small Claims track. (This works both ways, and means that if you were to lose in small claims, you wouldn't find yourself liable to pay for the parking company's lawyer).

The exception is where you can show the other party has behaved unreasonably. Here, you are alleging that their failure to notify you they had discontinued the claim was unreasonable, and are therefore seeking your costs that were incurred as a result of their unreasonable behaviour.

Any costs you incurred before they discontinued were not a resukt of this.

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #87 on: »
Costs are generally very limited in the Small Claims track. (This works both ways, and means that if you were to lose in small claims, you wouldn't find yourself liable to pay for the parking company's lawyer).

The exception is where you can show the other party has behaved unreasonably. Here, you are alleging that their failure to notify you they had discontinued the claim was unreasonable, and are therefore seeking your costs that were incurred as a result of their unreasonable behaviour.

Any costs you incurred before they discontinued were not a resukt of this.

Got you.

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #88 on: »
Send the following to the court manager:

Quote
[Defendant’s Name] 
[Defendant’s Address] 
[City, Postcode] 
[Email Address] (if applicable) 
[Date] 

The Court Manager 
[Name of the Court] 
[Court Address] 

Re: Case No. [Claim Number] – Request for Costs Consideration under CPR 27.14(2)(g) 

Dear Sir/Madam, 

I write in relation to the above-referenced case, which I was defending. I have recently become aware that the claimant discontinued the claim on 11th February 2025, but they failed to notify me of this. I only discovered that the claim had been discontinued after contacting the court on 5th March 2025

It is my submission that the claimant’s failure to inform me of the discontinuance constitutes unreasonable behaviour under CPR 27.14(2)(g), as it caused unnecessary time, stress, and effort in continuing to deal with the matter. Had I not proactively contacted the court, I would have remained unaware of the discontinuance. 

In light of this, I respectfully request that the court considers awarding costs against the claimant. A breakdown of my costs is as follows: 

Description: Time spent dealing with the case after discontinuance (research, drafting letters, contacting the court) 
Hours:
Rate: £19 per hour 
Total: £XX.XX 

Description: Printing and postage costs 
Total: £XX.XX 

Description: Other reasonable costs (if applicable) 
Total: £XX.XX 

Total Costs Sought: £XX.XX

Given the claimant's unreasonable conduct in failing to notify me, I request that the court considers making an order for my costs on the papers. I would be grateful if the court could confirm whether this matter can be considered administratively or if further steps are required. 

Yours faithfully, 

[Defendant’s Name] 

They wrote back and said this:

Good Morning,

A formal application on form N244 and fee of £119 are required if you wish to make a claim for costs.

Kind Regards,

Re: Received a court claim form for overstaying in a supermarket carpark
« Reply #89 on: »
Respond to that with the following:

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Dear Sir/Madam,

Re: Case No. [Claim Number] – Request for Costs Consideration Following Discontinuance

Thank you for your response dated [insert date], advising that a formal N244 application is required to seek costs.

I write to respectfully clarify that I am not seeking to re-open the case or apply for any further directions but am instead requesting the court to exercise its discretion to award modest costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g), due to the claimant’s unreasonable conduct in failing to notify me of the discontinuance.

It is my understanding that following a late discontinuance, the court retains jurisdiction to consider costs under CPR 38.6 and that such requests can, and often are, considered on the papers without the need for a formal N244 application—particularly where no further hearing is necessary and the costs sought are proportionate.

In this case, the claimant discontinued on 11th February 2025 but failed to inform me. I only discovered this upon proactively contacting the court on 5th March 2025. I respectfully maintain that this failure to notify caused unnecessary stress, wasted effort, and inconvenience, and therefore constitutes unreasonable behaviour under CPR 27.14(2)(g).

Given the circumstances and the modest nature of the costs requested, I would be grateful if the court could confirm whether the request may be placed before a District Judge for consideration under the court's general discretion, without the need for a fee-bearing application.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain