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Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
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And yet NCP themselves call it a "Parking Charge Notice to Keeper".

As has been noted, NCP are one of the few firms who do often give up once it is clear that the appellant knows their stuff and is unlikely to back down. Nobody is suggesting that NCP are claiming the ability to rely on PoFA. They know they can't. The purpose of the proposed letter to NCP is to show that the keeper knows they can't, with the goal of hopefully showing to NCP that the keeper knows NCP are just fishing.

I'm not sure we'd gain anything from seeing ZZPS letters, there's seldom anything useful contained therein.

Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
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It really matters not one iota what the ZZPS letter says. It will threaten all sorts of gruesome outcomes if the recipient doesn't pay up. So what?

ZZPS are a third party that has nothing to do with the contract allegedly breached by the driver. The only party that the Keeper needs to deal with and take note of is NCP.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
« Reply #17 on: »
It really matters not one iota what the ZZPS letter says. It will threaten all sorts of gruesome outcomes if the recipient doesn't pay up. So what?

ZZPS are a third party that has nothing to do with the contract allegedly breached by the driver. The only party that the Keeper needs to deal with and take note of is NCP.

**UPDATE**
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Thank you for all your advice b789, i have followed this to the letter. I submitted my letter exactly as per your draft via the NCP webform, this was sent but frustratingly you do not receive any confirmation email. I couldn't find an email to send it to?
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I subsequently received a letter from ZZPS increasing the amount owed for both of the tickets (remember these were for the same vehicle parked for 3 days in the same space, 1 issued on first day and 1 on third day)
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I have today now received two letter from CGTT Certified Enforcement Agents, one for each of the tickets telling me that if i do not pay or comply within 14 days NCP intend to pursue the matter through the courts.
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As advised i have made no contact with ZZPS.
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Do i need to resend the letter to NCP via registered post? do you have an address or email i could resend it to or is this not necessary? Whilst i'm not overly concerned about the ZZPS and GCTT letters, i'd rather not be receiving them.
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What really frustrates me is that i paid the correct fee on exit and have checked the space where i parked and can see absolutely no infringement whatsoever.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2025, 02:51:41 pm by V12Orange »

Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
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GCTT are a trading name of ZZPS. The same advice as previously about debt collectors applies. Nothing has changed.

You can email your complaint to NCP at customer.service@ncp.co.uk and make sure you CC yourself.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
« Reply #19 on: »
GCTT are a trading name of ZZPS. The same advice as previously about debt collectors applies. Nothing has changed.

You can email your complaint to NCP at customer.service@ncp.co.uk and make sure you CC yourself.

I have resubmitted the letter you kindly provided to the customer.service email as you suggested. This is in addition to the webform i originally completed several weeks ago, which has not been acknowledged as a complaint.
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I have received an automated reply from the email, copied below? Are they determined to make it as difficult as possible to raise a complaint
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"*** This is an automated message, Do not reply to this email. Replies are not monitored. ***
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Thank you for your email. This customer service email address is no longer monitored. Please use our other methods of contact below.
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Please visit our online Help Centre for assistance with your query at www.ncp.co.uk, we have an FAQ section which will hopefully answer any questions you may have. Also, if your query is regarding a refund or receipt, please visit the NCP Refunds and Receipts page to complete and submit the relevant webform.
We also have webchat on the NCP website, this is not a Live chat and we will aim to respond within 1 day of submission of your query.
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If you have an ongoing case with NCP, please be assured that your correspondence will be responded to in due course."
« Last Edit: July 05, 2025, 01:56:51 am by V12Orange »

Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
« Reply #20 on: »
Send it to the DPO and tell them to forward it to the relevant department. That email address is monitored.

DataProtection@ncp.co.uk

You can always write to them and post it with a free proof of posting certificate from any post office.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
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Send it to the DPO and tell them to forward it to the relevant department. That email address is monitored.

DataProtection@ncp.co.uk

You can always write to them and post it with a free proof of posting certificate from any post office.

I've resent the formal complaint letter to the DataProtection email address as advised, but intend to also send via registered post as well.

Apparently, this is their registered address:

National Car Parks Limited, The Bailey, 16 Old Bailey, London, EC4M 7EG

Is that the correct address to use or does anyone have a more specific one for formal complaints?

**UPDATE**
Also received in the post today two letters from GCTT advising they are now sending the matter to their "chosen firm of solicitors who are experts in the litigation arena for parking on private land"
« Last Edit: July 14, 2025, 01:32:27 pm by V12Orange »

Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
« Reply #22 on: »
Do not send by registered post, some of these cretins could refuse to accept it.

Send as per b789 says.

Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
« Reply #23 on: »
...but intend to also send via registered post as well.

You can always write to them and post it with a free proof of posting certificate from any post office.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: NCP - Not Parked Correctly - Crewe Railway Station Car Park
« Reply #24 on: »
***UPDATE - SUCCESS***

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Received reply email today from NCP

Dear,

Further to your email sent to Data Protection.

I am sorry to hear that you have not had a response from customer.service@ncp.co.uk.

Our records show 2 Parking Charges were issued for ‘Not Parked Correctly’ due to not parking wholly within a parking bay on the **th and **th of **** . The photos taken by the patroller show the vehicle parked over the bay lines. (Incorrect the photos clearly do not show this at all)

I can advise that 2 Parking charges were issued on different dates and that the patroller would not have known this was a continuous parking session for 3 days.

On Railway Land managed by NCP, we currently enforce under contract law. We are not allowed to use the provisions of The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (POFA) & Keeper Liability as Railway Land is exempt from this.

The parking Charges show to have progressed to Debt Recovery due to no payment or appeal received.

I can confirm the Parking Charges have been cancelled and withdrawn from Debt Recovery and no further action is required.

Kind Regards

Appeals Department

National Car Parks Ltd
« Last Edit: July 23, 2025, 01:13:45 am by V12Orange »
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