Author Topic: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement  (Read 7960 times)

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Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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Just send that template. The contents of the initial appeal aren't particularly important - Civil Enforcement will reject either way. It is at POPLA where arguments can be fleshed out in detail.

The important thing is to get the appeals submitted - we're now 60 posts in on this thread and this still hasn't happened. Remember, if there is more than 1 PCN, each needs appealing separately.

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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Just confirming that I have appealed all but one of the PCNs....on entering the last one into the website appeal process, it stated that 'This Parking Notice has been cancelled'; screenshot taken in the event of them denying that this was stated, attached.

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Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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An email response arrived on April 25th, but for only one of the PCNs, attached.

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Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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afternoon, so to summarise:

1) One of my PCNs has been cancelled according to CE website
2) I have had a response for only one of the remaining 2

Just would like some advice as to my next steps, in terms of next appeal stage, and whether I should contact CE to chase on their response to the other PCN.
thanks

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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Wondered if anyone could offer me advice on the next steps to take please? Thank you

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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SO you appeal to POPLA for the other outstanding PCNs. Each PCN has to be appealed separately. Have a search of the forum for other POPLA appeals to see how and what you should include in a POPLA appeal.

When you think you have something ready to use, show it to us and someone will review it and let you know whether to send as is or to make corrections/additions.

Just remember that POPLA will only consider points of law or the PPSCoP. They do not consider any mitigation.

You have 33 days from the date of the appeal rejection to submit your POPLA appeal.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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so should I contact CE to remind them I havent had a response to one of the PCN appeals?

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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If a response is now overdue, yes.

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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I am really at a loss as to the approach to take in setting out my argument as I have no legal background. I am still waiting on a useful response from BCC as the maps they are sending me dont actually relate to my original request as to the Common boundary. Have chased them up for an appropriate reply. Should I go down the route that was suggested in that the terms of the implied contract from the signage are confusing ?

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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Yes, we're waiting for you to share a draft for us to comment on - we are unfortunately unable to write an entire POPLA appeal for you as this is a very busy forum run by volunteers.

You mentioned having sent an FOI request on 16th April - what response have you had?

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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The FOA response was sending me a link to Know Your Place...

https://maps.bristol.gov.uk/kyp/?edition%3D

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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Draft first attempt at an appeal....

The denial of the appeal by CE stated 28 days not 33 days as someone has suggested, which would mean that I have until 23rd May to submit. They have confirmed that the 2 later PCNs have been cancelled.

I am appealing against the issue of PCN 0943640437 issued on 23rd March 2025. From a personal perspective, I was taken into the adjoining Southmead Hospital with a suspected heart attack and with the necessity of obtaining treatment being priorty, she decided to park at the leisure centre gym, where I have been a member for 20 years, rather than having to walk further using the hospital's main car park (A&E parking spaces were fully used). Due to the concern about my health, the stay in the car park was longer than the 3 hours specified in the sign dotted around the site. I would like to add that the PCNs state that £70 will be added at a later date, whereas the signs merely say that a nebulous 'additional charge' will be incurred. Acceptance of an offer in contract law requires the offer, and the acceptance of the offer, to be unequivocal - commonly used as the mirror image rule (Carlill v Carbolic Smoke Ball Co).

All help welcomed.

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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Have you searched the forum for other POPLA appeals to get a favour of how they are put together and how to list the points of appeal?

Mitigation is not taken into consideration. You can only appeal on points of law and the PPSCoP and Consumer Rights Act.

The POPLA code is valid for 28 days from service. Receipt or "service" is considered to be 5 days after the date the appeal is rejected.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: PCNat Horfield Leisure Centre, Bristol issued by Civil Enforcement
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I don't think there are clear points of law to support me then. The cases quoted before offer alternative opinions so none the wiser as to the approach I should take