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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
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There's a risk you may have made things rather complicated.

It's unfortunate that we don't have the exact text of your appeal.

You mentioned that you didn't at any point state that you were the driver. Flipping that question, have you said explicitly to VCS at any point (and in the appeal) that you were not the driver?

Otherwise, appealing a parking charge issued to someone else in your own name on the grounds that "I had the right to park there" risks making a pretty strong implication that you were the one who parked.
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« Reply #16 on: »
I guess no, I’ve never said I’m not the driver. I agreed to fight this for my friend as I kinda gave him the go ahead as I was aware that we’re awaiting permits / visitor permits so thought it wouldn’t be an issue. I even contacted VCS straight away after my friend received the PCN & stated the permit issue and they said on the phone that this would be a valid appeal.

It’s clear at some point that they changed the address for communications from my friends address, got through DVLA, to mine - listed on the appeal.

What would stating I wasn’t the driver achieve?
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The issue isn’t the parking. The issue I believe is that there would be no issue if they had issued the permits out on time. VCS confirmed they hadn’t even sent out the permits until late November so that gave just under 2 months (from early October expiry of permits) of not a single person having a valid permit in the entire car park.

Is it not reasonable to assume that parking enforcement can’t be enforced during this period?
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« Reply #18 on: »
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What would stating I wasn’t the driver achieve?

For one, stopping VCS from believing you were, which seems to be the case at present.

An issue at present is that VCS are pursuing you for a parking charge that (contractually speaking) is nothing to do with you.

The reason for that would seem to be that they think you were the driver. My worry is that 'your' appeal has misled them into believing this, in which case you could find yourself having a lot of explaining to do if they proceed to court.
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« Reply #19 on: »
Yeah okay. I’ll confirm it in an email to them. I clearly put that I have permission to represent my friend on the appeal so I’ll reconfirm that. I’ve managed to get Vanessa from FirstPort mobile number so will give her a ring on Monday as she should be able to sort this out.
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« Reply #20 on: »
As above, they've tagged you as the driver who parked so you've ended up in the cross-hairs. Dismantle that misconception (in writing) asap.

Do you by any chance rent in a retirement/over-55/60 apartment?.............
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« Reply #21 on: »
The initial PCN got sent to my mates house. I then represented him for the appeal & going forwards I was the one looking to get this dropped (thought it would be pretty simple but here we are). I guess they’ve since then changed their info to me for an unknown reason but I’ve emailed them confirming again that I wasn’t the driver.

The flats aren’t retirement - the whole estate have similar issues & we’re all wanting to move to better management companies. As a tenant & not owner though I can’t even properly access the FirstPort website
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Kinda annoying for it to be so hard to cancel the ticket. It’s pretty clear case that if VCS & FirstPort worked better together - the other flats & I would have the relevant permits. I feel guilty for my mate as I said he could park there. Especially as it was a visitor spot after all!
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They make their money from them being hard to deal with.

By far your best bet is to get the management company to intervene.

In the meantime, as I and M60NJP have said, you need to make clear to VCS that you are not the driver.
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I have emailed them so that’s evidence now. Thanks for your help so far :)
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