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PCN - Milton Country Park, Cambridge
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Morning,

Received a PCN letter from Parkingeye on the 24th April (letter dated 18th April). I am the registered keeper, driver was not me.
ANPR shows 2hours 32 minutes between entrance (11:02:17) and exit (13:34:28).
Driver (not me) paid for 2 hours parking @ £3.75. Upon leaving she said there was no option to pay the extra 30mins so left.

We have now received a Parking Charge of £100 (or £60 early payment), plus a £10 charge from our car lease company.

I want to appeal as this doesn't seem fair, can I appeal? I have checked the Tripadvisor for Milton Country Park and the last eight reviews are people complaining about the Parking Company.

Thanks

Best regards,
B

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Re: PCN - Milton Country Park, Cambridge
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I am the registered keeper
If this is a leased vehicle, and said lease company have charged you an admin fee, this is very unlikely. Do you have the vehicle's V5C document with your name and address on it? If so, the PCN would have come straight to you with absolutely no involvement from your lease company.

Please show us the notice you have received (and any other related correspondence) - there is a guide to doing so here (please use Imgur as advised, don't upload directly to here): READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide

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Please can you confirm you can see my uploads, apologies, not used this system before. Many thanks B

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Yes. We also need to see the back of that notice, and need confirmation of the questions asked in my previous post.

We also need to know if the ParkingEye notice you have shown us is addressed to you or the lease company.

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Here is the back of the PCN. The Parking Eye letter is addressed to me.  The vehicles V5C document is addressed to the lease company. [ Guests cannot view attachments ]

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I assume ParkingEye did not enclose any other documents alongside their PCN, such as a copy of your lease agreement?

So, you are the hirer and not the registered keeper. This means you have no liability, as they are not seeking to hold you liable as the hirer.

Appeal online as the hirer only with the below:

Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the hirer of the vehicle, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act").

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Yours,


If appealing online, be careful there are no drop down/tick boxes that cause you to identify who was driving, and keep a close eye on your spam folder for their response. If they do not respond within 28 days, chase them.

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Thank you for you quick response.

The PCN was the only document I received.

Just filling out the appeal with Parkingeye , do I select the 'Reason for appeal:
I was not the driver of the vehicle'

Thanks for your help on this matter, really do appreciate it.


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If there's an option for 'Other', I generally suggest choosing that, but otherwise the option you have suggested would seem OK in the circumstances.

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I have selected other and submitted my appeal. Once I get a response is it okay, to seek further instructions?

Many thanks in advance.

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Of course.

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Milton Country Park is land under statutory control, specifically regulated by byelaws made under Section 41 of the Countryside Act 1968. These byelaws were:

• Made by South Cambridgeshire District Council;
• Confirmed by the Secretary of State on 5 April 1994;
• Came into operation on 2 May 1994.

Key Implications:

•The byelaws prohibit or regulate the use of vehicles within the park, subject to exceptions such as spaces set aside by the Council (see section 6).
• Any parking enforcement regime operated within Milton Country Park must be consistent with these statutory byelaws.
•As a result, Milton Country Park is not “relevant land” under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, meaning:
• The Keeper of a vehicle cannot be held liable for any parking charge under PoFA.
• Only the driver at the time of the alleged incident could potentially be pursued, subject to other defences.

Besides the fact that ParkingEye failed to include the copies of the required documents, the above is the reason they have not issued an NtH that invokes PoFA. If a private parking company attempts to invoke PoFA to pursue the Keeper/Hirer, or fails to account for the statutory control status of the land, such enforcement would be legally defective.

So, I would adapt that appeal slightly as follows:

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Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the keeper of the vehicle under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("the Act").

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so.

For the avoidance of doubt, even if you had attempted to rely on Schedule 4 of the Act, you would have failed to establish liability, as the location in question—Milton Country Park—is subject to statutory control by byelaws. As such, the land is not “relevant land” within the meaning of the Act, and the provisions of Schedule 4 do not apply.

I am therefore unable to assist you further with this matter, and I look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Yours faithfully,
[Your Name]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Well-spotted @b789.

OP, if you've already submitted based on my template, don't fret. If ParkingEye don't just cancel, we can add in the relevant land argument at POPLA.

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There is already a case at the same location but with a Keeper rather than a Hirer:

ParkingEye PCN - Overstay within grace period - Milton Country Park, Cambridge
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain