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Hello all,

 I received a a parking charge at a car park for a shopping centre in Lewisham London. I was given a statement on another topic that I opened stating about them issuing me with a POPLA code. The parking company has refused to do so and do not want to take anything further With me and are  sending debt collection letters.

They have now issued me with a notice of intended legal action

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Re: PCN from Parking Management Control Lewisham Shopping Centre
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Is this the same charge as your ongoing topic: Private parking charge letter UKPM?

Re: PCN from Parking Management Control Lewisham Shopping Centre
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Hello, it is the same parking management company, but it’s a different PCN for a different area

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Hello this has now resulted in a court certificate. Please can someone assist me. This car is registered to my Uncle but I was the driver

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This car is registered to my Uncle but I was the driver
Who is the claim addressed to?

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It’s address to him I told him I would deal with is as I’m the driver. My uncle doesn’t understand this type of stuff he barley understands how to use his smartphone

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Edit your post! Do not identify the Driver

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Edit your post! Do not identify the Driver
As a claim has already been issued (against the OP's uncle, who was not driving), the identity of the driver is irrelevant, so no benefit to editing the post

Re: PCN from Parking Management Control Lewisham Shopping Centre
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Just use the CPR 16.4 Defence. Plenty of recent examples of it. (Not the CPR 16.4(1)(a) defence)
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: PCN from Parking Management Control Lewisham Shopping Centre
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I didn’t realize my response didn’t send. So I just need to copy and paste a a standard defense from someone else’s post and not add anything to it?

Re: PCN from Parking Management Control Lewisham Shopping Centre
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Hello it says I have 14 days to respond I’m worried I’ve now gone over it because I don’t understand what I’m doing

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Am I just filling the blanks here and sending it

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I filled out an acknowledgment of service for now I’m worried about doing it all wrong

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With an issue date of 28th April, you have until 4pm on Monday 19th May to submit your defence. If you have submitted an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you then have until 4pm on Monday 2nd June to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of UK Parking Control Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

UK Parking Control Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence

This can only be done in your uncle's name. You cannot do anything in your name on your uncles behalf. So, your uncle is the defendant.

If you follow the advice, there should not be any need for your uncle to have to go to court or anything as the claim will either be struck out of discontinued. In the extremely remote event that it ever did progress as far as a hearing (less than 1% chance), then he would have to be there but you could act as his lay representative.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: PCN from Parking Management Control Lewisham Shopping Centre
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Hi B789

I was out of time so I panicked and I’ve done an acknowledgment of service in my name not my uncles. Is it too late now to resubmit the acknowledgment? In his name ?