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Re: PCN for parking outside of parking's territory
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It would be easier if you used the function I suggested in my PM on how to embed the images in the post rather than as links to them on Imgur. Like this:



If you took the photos using your phone or a digital camera, then the date/time EXIF info is already embedded in the image itself. Just Google how to find the embedded image data. Here is a list of options that took a few minutes to extract:

To extract embedded image data, also known as EXIF (Exchangeable Image File Format) data, from photos you took with your phone, you can use various methods depending on your platform and preference. EXIF data includes information like the date and time the photo was taken, camera settings, GPS location, and more. Here are a few methods to get this data:

1. Using Your Phone
iOS:

Photos App:

Open the Photos app and select the photo.
Swipe up or tap the "i" icon to view the photo's details, including some EXIF data.
Third-Party Apps:

EXIF Viewer by Fluntro: This app provides detailed EXIF information.
Metapho: Another app that allows you to view and edit EXIF data.
Android:

Google Photos:

Open Google Photos and select the photo.
Tap the three-dot menu or swipe up to view details, including some EXIF data.
Third-Party Apps:

Photo Exif Editor: This app allows you to view, modify, and delete EXIF data.
ExifTool: A powerful tool for viewing and editing EXIF data.
2. Using a Computer
Windows:

File Explorer:

Right-click on the photo file and select "Properties."
Go to the "Details" tab to view EXIF information.
Third-Party Software:

ExifTool: A comprehensive tool for reading, writing, and editing EXIF data.
IrfanView: An image viewer that shows EXIF data (press I to see information).
macOS:

Preview:

Open the photo in Preview.
Go to Tools > Show Inspector and click the i icon to view EXIF data.
Third-Party Software:

ExifTool: Available for macOS as well, offering extensive EXIF data manipulation.
GraphicConverter: Another option to view and edit EXIF data.
3. Using Online Tools
EXIF.tools:

Visit EXIF.tools, upload your photo, and view the EXIF data.
Verexif:

Visit Verexif, upload your photo, and view the EXIF data.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2024, 07:16:50 pm by b789 »
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Re: PCN for parking outside of parking's territory
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Quote from: b789 on June 03, 2024, 07:14:45 pm
It would be easier if you used the function I suggested in my PM on how to embed the images in the post rather than as links to them on Imgur. Like this:



If you took the photos using your phone or a digital camera, then the date/time EXIF info is already embedded in the image itself. Just Google how to find the embedded image data. Here is a list of options that took a few minutes to extract:

To extract embedded image data, also known as EXIF (Exchangeable Image File Format) data, from photos you took with your phone, you can use various methods depending on your platform and preference. EXIF data includes information like the date and time the photo was taken, camera settings, GPS location, and more. Here are a few methods to get this data:

1. Using Your Phone
iOS:

Photos App:

Open the Photos app and select the photo.
Swipe up or tap the "i" icon to view the photo's details, including some EXIF data.
Third-Party Apps:

EXIF Viewer by Fluntro: This app provides detailed EXIF information.
Metapho: Another app that allows you to view and edit EXIF data.
Android:

Google Photos:

Open Google Photos and select the photo.
Tap the three-dot menu or swipe up to view details, including some EXIF data.
Third-Party Apps:

Photo Exif Editor: This app allows you to view, modify, and delete EXIF data.
ExifTool: A powerful tool for viewing and editing EXIF data.
2. Using a Computer
Windows:

File Explorer:

Right-click on the photo file and select "Properties."
Go to the "Details" tab to view EXIF information.
Third-Party Software:

ExifTool: A comprehensive tool for reading, writing, and editing EXIF data.
IrfanView: An image viewer that shows EXIF data (press I to see information).
macOS:

Preview:

Open the photo in Preview.
Go to Tools > Show Inspector and click the i icon to view EXIF data.
Third-Party Software:

ExifTool: Available for macOS as well, offering extensive EXIF data manipulation.
GraphicConverter: Another option to view and edit EXIF data.
3. Using Online Tools
EXIF.tools:

Visit EXIF.tools, upload your photo, and view the EXIF data.
Verexif:

Visit Verexif, upload your photo, and view the EXIF data.

I did take the photos with an iPhone, so I do have the day and date but I was thinking it needed to be "burned" on the imagine, like the CCTV camera for example.
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Well done on both embedding the image in the post and figuring out how you can show the EXIF data with the photo. Did you get any photos of the lamppost which definitely is not on private land?
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Re: PCN for parking outside of parking's territory
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Quote from: b789 on June 03, 2024, 08:02:45 pm
Well done on both embedding the image in the post and figuring out how you can show the EXIF data with the photo. Did you get any photos of the lamppost which definitely is not on private land?

Thank you for showing me! I will try and either go today or tomorrow morning to take a picture of that. Also, just wanted to ask if there is any point trying to raise an appeal with the IAS?
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Personally, I don't advise wasting time with an IAS appeal. Others hold an opposite view. In fact, I was very surprised to read only today or yesterday on here of an IAS appeal that was conceded by the operator. Whilst that is not exactly a successful appeal, it was a success in that it forced the operator to concede defeat without having to see what the assessor would have said.

It's up to you. I you have the time and inclination to do so, be my guest and please show us what you intend to send before you actually do. Unlike the BPA which give you 28 days, you only have 21 days in which to appeal with an IPC operator.
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Quote from: b789 on June 03, 2024, 08:29:34 pm
Personally, I don't advise wasting time with an IAS appeal. Others hold an opposite view. In fact, I was very surprised to read only today or yesterday on here of an IAS appeal that was conceded by the operator. Whilst that is not exactly a successful appeal, it was a success in that it forced the operator to concede defeat without having to see what the assessor would have said.

It's up to you. I you have the time and inclination to do so, be my guest and please show us what you intend to send before you actually do. Unlike the BPA which give you 28 days, you only have 21 days in which to appeal with an IPC operator.

Noted. Need to think about it but I will definetely let you know about anything I decide to send. I wish I could begin express how thankful I am of your support. Thank you!
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Quote from: b789 on June 03, 2024, 06:52:12 pm
Subject to some other comments from regulars, I would go with a complaint to start with.
My only addition to the discussion so far would be to see if you can get some sort of confirmation (e.g. from Land Registry or the relevant local authority) as to where the private land begins and where the public highway ends. The photos are useful, but this would make the case even stronger.

You don't need to wait for this in order to complain, but it would be useful evidence to have if they subsequently dig their heels in.

Some councils post lists (or sometimes even maps) of the adopted highways for which they are responsible - start by seeing if the relevant council publishes one on their website. If they don't, contact the council for further information - if they're not being too useful, explaining the situation might help; they might (should) take a dim view of a private company issuing parking charges on an adopted highway.

Regarding the IAS, I don't hold the opposite view to @b789, in that I agree with him that they are largely useless. That said, I usually take the view that if constructing your appeal to them doesn't take too much of your valuable time, then you've not lost much by trying. In this case, bringing to light the fact they're operating on the public highway might make them keen to avoid too much scrutiny...
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Quote from: b789 on June 03, 2024, 06:52:12 pm
Where does the public highway end and the private land start? Is it at the lamppost with the sign or at the start of the steel fence? The streetlamp is not on private property as it is the same as all the other streetlamps on Fenton Rd.
This is critical to the case, as I mentioned previously. Was the car parked on private land or public?

Looking at the Land Registry map at https://www.landregistry-uk.com/map-search, it is somewhat ambiguous and not really possible to tell where the private land starts, as the car park and the whole of Fenton Road seem to be in the same "lot" of land. Coventry council's web site don't appear to have a definitive map of adopted roads, or not as far as I've been able to find.

The fact that the signage (on GSV) starts at the lamp post seems to imply that they think that's where their land starts. There is even a "bar" across the pavement at that point, though the road surface is the same. Only the local highways authority will be able to tell you for sure, so they need to be contacted and asked where exactly their land ends.
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